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LMC "S" Mint's

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So I've posted before about LMC's and was informed there is no key date right now. I assume one might emerge eventually if it ever becomes legal to melt the penny. IMO it would likely be one of the 68-75 S mints. As of right now all I have to go off is the mintage numbers. The 1968-S LMC had a run of 258,270,001. It's the lowest minted business strike LMC.

For whatever reason, when I look on ebay.. it appears the 1971-S LMC is actually the most expensive. A roll is ~2-3x higher than the 68-S. The 71-S had a mintage of 525,133,459 which is over double the 68-S. Why is the 68-S one of the least expensive S mints while the 71-S is the most expensive?

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Maybe 71s rolls have better, more valuable varieties?
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I think the key date will either be the 1969 s DDO or the 1972 DDO. Or the 1960 D large over small date. Unless you are just talking straight up normal coins. The 1969 in higher grades. Remember though that if it becomes legal to melt down pennies, more people with save the S mint marks, possibly making the D and P more valuable. You just don't know what date will be a key date until it rises in value.
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Exept for the normal people who don't collect by variety

Just kidding, of course.
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The S mint business strikes are from 1968-S to 1974-S. I think bu rolls of these Lincolns will take off someday ( I hope ). As I have at least 5 roll sets of the series.
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SSK - why do you think the 69 in better shape will be the key date over the 68? Its mintage is double of the 68-S. I don't count varieties because that 69 DDO is super rare.. I'm just talking normal business strike coins.

Good point about the melting though, I agree the "s" mints may be saved instead of melted.
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Mintage numbers don't heavily play into a coins value. What plays into a coins value is how many pieces were saved in higher condition. Go to the Red Book and read the "element of rarity" section on page 27. It should help.
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Very true - the 1955 dime comes to mind. Lowest minted Roosevelt dime but they were hoarded in BU condition so you see them all over ebay. I'll have to get a Red Book someday. Everyone gives them great reviews.

I was looking through my LMC collection and I've actually never found a 1973-S. It's the only LMC business strike that I haven't found in circulation in good condition. Granted I probably found some verdigris ones but I don't count that. It might actually end up being valuable too.
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San Fran didn't mint any Lincolns for a long time prior to 1968. When the public became aware that they were going to make S mint cents again, there was a mad rush to acquire them in hopes they would be as valuable as the rarer, early S mint cents. Thusly, they were hoarded in huge numbers so today we have many BU coins available on the market for low prices.

By 1970 people soon realized the 1968S Lincolns weren't as valuable as speculators thought they might be and the mint kept producing millions of S mint cents. There was a lot less interest in hoarding the later coins (70-74S) so today we have less of them available (compared to the 68S) so the price is a bit higher.

On a side note, the thing to look for in the 1968S is full and completely formed steps. The mint tended to over-use the reverse dies and the fine detail in the steps is one of the first things to go. If you start paying attention to the issue, you'll quickly see this. Why on God's green earth nickels get so much attention for "full steps" but Memorial Cents do not is beyond me. It's much harder to find cents with full steps than you might think. With some years, it's completely impossible because the step detail was nearly gone from the master dies from producing so many working dies/coins.

Full steps is an important thing to me with Memorial cents. I'm always seeking coins with full steps and, as hard as I've worked on it over the years, my FS collection is FAR from complete. My hopes are that one day the TPG's and collectors of the world will recognize the value of finding Memorials with full steps.
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Good insight badthad.. That makes sense. So do you think one of the 70s S in bu will be the key date?
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