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Proof State Quarter Error(S)

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 Posted 12/31/2007  2:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add madzdad71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greetings all,
This should be the 1st of many posts.
Here's the burning questions. If proof coins are generally hand picked and checked after each pressing, how do seriously errored proofs make it out of the mints? Question 2:
Are the San Fran (S) mint marks created in the die so that the pressing is done in one pressing? I am assuming that the proof coins are all made in the same Mint, and not sent out for the mint marks as in earlier coinage?
Okay one more Question, the serious one:
I have been researching the Doubled Die Vs. Machine Doubling. According to this article * Link Removed by Staff * a true doubled die appears like this:
The serifs are split, and sharp (relatively).
There are "valleys" between the original and newer "images".
The secondary or original "image" is raised and rounded.


Whereas the Machine Doubling appears like this:

The serifs are rounded out (smashed).
The secondary or original "image" is smashed flat and shelf-like.
There are no "valleys" between the original and newer "images".
The edges between the 2 images may be shiny because the metal has been sheared.


I have a Proof 2000 S Mass State Quarter, the Doubling is exactly how the the website describes a true doubled die. There is no "Smashing" of the letter/Numbers underneath, everything is very sharp and crisp, No evidence of smearing. The face shows good doubling as well, Under the nose, the neck, the ponytail. So what are the odd of this being a trouble DD on a proof?


Here is a scan that I had to cut in half to cut down on the size. I know they are poor, But you don't have to look very hard at it to see it. Digi pics coming soon.


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12/31/2007 4:00 pm
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 Posted 12/31/2007  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madzdad71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry **Admins** I missed the part about linking to outside sites, My bad.
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 Posted 12/31/2007  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We would need better pictures.

Most people are hopeful that a coin is a doubled die but when experience in looking at them is not plentiful, it is easy to confuse die doubling and Machine Doubling.

In some cases what looks like split serifs are, when magnified, damaged serifs.

In any case, it is impossible to tell from these pictures.
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12/31/2007 4:39 pm
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Well I am a little hopeful that it is a Doubled (looks great with a 16x Loupe ), on the other hand, It does go well with the collection of other oddities that I have collected over the years. Once the new Digi gets here, I will post better pics.
Thanks for the response.
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12/31/2007 4:41 pm
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