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Big Coin From Italy, But What Is It?

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 Posted 12/31/2007  11:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add waveform to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I'm not sure which section to post this kind of qustion in? please forgive me if this is not the correct place for this.
I have this huge coin from 1880, what could this be? it's about as big as my hand.



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 Posted 01/01/2008  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Firecom911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, and welcome to the forum!

Your item appears to be a commemorative medallion.

The language on the reverse is German and reads

"To the memory of the building of the Arlburg Tunnel".

Arlberg is a mountain range or massif between Vorarlberg and Tyrol in Austria, so I'm guessing your medallion is Austrian.

That's a beautiful piece. I love the relief of the obverse.


Steve

P.S. PLEASE...don't clean it!
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01/01/2008 12:42 am
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 Posted 01/01/2008  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's neither Italian, nor a coin. It's an Austrian railway medal. The language is German. It appears to be commemorating the construction and opening of a very long railway tunnel, the Arlberg Tunnel, 10 km long between Tyrol and Vorarlberg. A massive engineering effort in it's day, nowadays it doesn't even rank in the list of super-long tunnels.

The reverse legend says around it, "The Royal Imperial Direction for building the State Railways". The central inscription translates to: "to the memory of the designers of the Arlberg tunnel".

Edit: Firecom beat me to it... gotta type faster.
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 Posted 01/01/2008  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add waveform to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, you guys are amazing, Thanks!

@Firecom911, you said don't clean it? I know that could kill it, but is there nothing you recommend for preserving it from the oils of skin? Although I remember touching this thing when it was at my grandmas house, that was 28 years ago, I'm 33. Apparently it never hurt it, so I see what you mean.

My parents were asking if it's worth anything, do you guys think it?
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 Posted 01/01/2008  01:12 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is one of the most beautiful coins I have seen. The detail is just amazing. Not sure of it's worth but if you ever wanna sell it please come here first
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 Posted 01/01/2008  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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My parents were asking if it's worth anything, do you guys think it?

It can be, if you sell it in the right place. CoinArchives is a database of prices realised for coins and medals from the larger European and American auction houses. A search for "Arlberg" shows up quite a few of these exact same medals; prices realised range from 65 euro to 150 euro, and a silver version sold for over $2000. You probably won't get that sort of money for it on ebay, but you never know.
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Wow, Thanks guys
I was looking through some of my stuff, I've got this US Indian Head penny from 1901
And there is a Thomas Jefferson coin from 1809 with a funny looking back. It dosn't look like it's money, it's just an old coin about Thomas Jefferson. It's amazing how well the metal on these coins holds up over the years.
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 Posted 01/01/2008  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice medal. Another way to tell it's from Austria is the Double headed eagle coat of arms.
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 Posted 01/04/2008  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I know that could kill it, but is there nothing you recommend for preserving it from the oils of skin?


It appears that some glue or something is one the surface in a spot or two. You should not clean the medal, but there is something you can do to conserve it. Cleaning generally refers to a harmful process that disturbs the metal on the surface of a coin(in your case, a medal)- this is bad. Conservation is the process of removing surface contaminants and not disturbing the metal- this is good. Search the forum for the proper use of acetone- it has been discussed many times. Acetone is an organic solvent that will remove organic surface material- glue, finger grease, pvc, etc.- but it will not harm or react with the metal itself and it will not remove any verdigris that may be present on the surface. It is volatile and flammable so you do have to take some safety precautions, but overall it is relatively safe to your health to use.
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 Posted 01/06/2008  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, the medal was not made in 1880, I think, but a little later. It says "Beginn Juni 1880 - Durchschlag Nov. 1883". So June 1880 was when construction began, and November 1883 was the breakthrough date. Guess the medal is from late 1883 ...

Side note: 10248.7 meters (see the medal) was the length of the tunnel when it was opened. The 10648 m (see Sap's first link) is the length of the tunnel today. So it's not a rare error piece. But still a nice medal.

Christian
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