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Is This A Double Die?

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 Posted 07/03/2015  5:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SadiesAngel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again

This time I'm praying the pictures came out clearly enough to be able to see
the coin.

This 1986P jumped out at me. To me this is absolutely a beautiful dime.
I know most dimes have a doubling effect but is this a actual double die 1986 P? If anyone can please shed some light on this one for me as to what this might be, I would appreciate it.

ps...Everyone have a safe and happy 4th of July


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 Posted 07/03/2015  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are actually doubled* dies. And I don't see one here. I think this is MD
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It appears to me to be MD.THe reason I think it is MD is because of the doubling on profile.I am still learning so someone smarter than I will clear it up for you.
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 Posted 07/03/2015  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vlds deterioration too I think
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 Posted 07/03/2015  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a worn die, to me.

The 6 is a bit of a puzzler.

I'd probably put it in my 'oddities' box just because of that 6. But I don't believe it's an error coin.
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 Posted 07/03/2015  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the responses everyone. I love the looks of this dime. I don't understand about the six? Isn't it shaped like the rest? I'm confused.
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 Posted 07/03/2015  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
They are actually doubled* dies
What SilverStackerKid kid is telling you, is doubled die coins are struck with dies that are doubled.
Some coins are doubled in other ways that lend them no extra value. The ones you want to find are doubled die coins,(doubled via a doubled die). You will learn to distinguish between the two here.
Continue to improve your photography skills and post pictures with less glare for the best attributions.
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 Posted 07/03/2015  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awe thank you CoinMasters you've been such a huge help. I so much
appreciate it. Thank you...
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 Posted 07/03/2015  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your welcome. Another time, S A, I have to go now.
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 Posted 07/03/2015  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you
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 Posted 07/04/2015  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MD. Almost looks like the lighting potentially.
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 Posted 07/04/2015  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To clarify, SilverStackerKid is trying to tell you the correct spelling of Doubled Die. The term has a "D" at the end of "Doubled." You spelled it "Double Die." A Doubled Die has doubling right on the die as the result of a a misalignment of images during hubbing. Die Deterioration Doubling ( DDD), which is what I think you see on your coin, is also on the die but is the result of premature die fatigue due to improper heat treat of the dies (during hardening) or due to die wear which causes the carbon in the steel (which makes the steel harder than iron alone) dissipate (called decarburization). DDD occurs after the die was created during its use. You can learn more about Decarburization here: http://www.asminternational.org/doc...f6f/23559195
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 Posted 07/04/2015  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you CoinHuntingDrew and Koinpro. I appreciate it.
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 Posted 07/04/2015  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also thank you for correcting me on the Double(d) Die
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 Posted 07/05/2015  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a later die state when your coin was struck. But when you look at the left top side of the 9 and 6, you can see a distortion on those devices. I refer to this as metal striation. When you move a knife in peanut butter sliding it side ways, you can see the edge irregularities transferred on the peanut butter. Those are striation lines on the edge of the knife causing this distortion. On a strike if the die pushes sideways you can see these.
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Those little lines are the edge of the metal on the die. That is what I'm seeing on your coin. A later die state coin and machine damage during the strike.
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RE: the 6

To me it looks like the circular portion is tall and somewhat seperate from the stem of the numeral. However, perhaps it only appears that way because of the lighting.
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