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Bought a random lot of mixed coins and this little booger was in there.... The other side is completely beat up and worn
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Appears to be a Connecticut Copper.
Do you have a closer pic of reverse/obverse?
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All I can mak out is I on the left side and e.T on the right side
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Definitely a Connecticut copper. I predict the date will be 1786. Just for the heck of it, could you provide a picture of the other side?
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Inde Et Lib

Independence and Liberty.

Yes, obverse pic please :)
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My guess is Hibernia-Voce Popuil Coin from the 1760's
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The obverse side is beat up and smooth can't make out anything.
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You can see a little of the jaw line,nose and head
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As a diecutter, Abel Buell's signature technique was the use of hubs to reproduce the large features for multiple dies. He used the hub technology to great effect in crafting the Fugio coppers in 1787, but before that, he was making Connecticut coppers for the Company for Coining Coppers, and 17 1786 reverses were made from a particular Buell hub. This reverse is one of them. Only the fine details vary, which is the real challenge here, but everybody look at the 1786 Miller reverses B.1, B.2, C, F, G, H.1, H.2, I, L, M, N, O.1, O.2, P, Q, R and S. I know which one I think this is, but I'd like to see if there is a consensus.
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I have no clue under her right arm has me stumped I don't see any that match
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It's her left arm (on our right) that really distinguishes this Buell hub. On the 1787 and '88 Connecticuts (when hubs were largely abandoned), Liberty's (Independence's?) upper left arm is usually poorly defined. With the reverse varieties from this hub, even the letters are all in fixed position. It's punctuation elements, drapery folds, and leaves on the sprig that differentiate them, and we may need you to take a well lit pic with the coin stable on a table, and camera set on "macro" mode (the "tulip" icon on a lot of phones) to pin this one down.
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