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1921 50 Cents On Ebay

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 Posted 07/22/2015  2:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kitkat1858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I'm curious as to what people think of this 1921 50c piece. What's your feeling about its authenticity? Would you ever trust this grading company PNG?
Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Cents-19...em2354fc6ecd

Thanks!
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 Posted 07/22/2015  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never heard of PNG so I can't comment. It's always curious when very "high value" collectibles don't appear in first tier TPG holders. It's probably already been through the ICCS and/or PCGS offices, although you would never get confirmation of that from anyone.
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I'd think it'd go more of an AU50 at PCGS or another TPG (liking the obverse). I'm not saying anything on authenticity for this one (as I am not familiar with counterfeits), but i'd stay away from it just because the situation seems fishy. thats my opinion
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 Posted 07/22/2015  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverNcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the asking price, it says it all.
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 Posted 07/22/2015  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is PNG grading trying to piggyback of the Professional Numismatists Guild?
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 Posted 07/22/2015  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just doesn't look/feel right to me
doesn't seem like something you would sell on ebay
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 Posted 07/22/2015  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.pngcoingrading.com/

Seems kind of legit. But I don't collect canadian coins so I wouldn't know.
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What's your feeling...


I wouldn't touch this one w/ a ten ft. pole...

This 'could' end up being the kind of deal where a 98%+ rated seller suddenly decides to turn bad and figures that quickly closing his/her ebay acct. after receiving payment is worth the risk in light of the reward.

Even though you probably would get your $ back because of ebay's financial policies in effect, the reimbursement and investigative processes definitely would be undesirable and time-consuming endeavors; both of which should be avoided like the plague.
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 Posted 07/22/2015  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting...on the PNG website, under "verfication"tab, you can see a listing of every coin they have graded...mostly modern CDN coins
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I have 3 or 4 PNG graded coins (not purchased because of the holder) - two of which seem accurate and two (MS cents) are optimistic. If this were my coin, it would likely go to PCGS.
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For $285,000 I don't want anyone sending a coin in the mail, I'll pick it up and look at it......if I had $285,000..
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Like tripoli I believe the coin has recently been in a PCGS or ICCS holder. You could have had an MS65 example a few months back for about $250,000, and that was about $50,000 over expectations. This coin is listed on ebay to try to give credibility to PNG. They must be top notch if someone has entrusted them to slab the King of Canadian coins, right?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/22/2015  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lenver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's another one for sale on kijiji http://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collecti...n/1088822584

Sure seems strange that two appear for sale at the same time from the same general area.
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07/22/2015 7:28 pm
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 Posted 07/22/2015  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look even close to the same coin to me.
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 Posted 07/22/2015  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lenver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ bobby131313 - Yeah, I edited my post.
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Listing is gone, along with about a dozen others violating ebay policy.
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