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1858 O Seated Half - Is This Grade Correct?

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 Posted 07/29/2015  12:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JRG to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this PCGS half dollar undergraded? My first impression was high XF. Admittedly, I'm pretty bad at grading Seated coinage.

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 Posted 07/29/2015  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks graded properly to me. I would expect a VF-35 example to have a more toned look. I suspect a cleaning but PCGS didn't seem to be think so. Like I said, hard to tell from these pics.
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Looks like an AU53 details coin to me. Toned over light cleaning imo. nlp
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The technical grade on actual wear is better than VF35 and appears 45 at least. It was likely net graded for cleaning/eye appeal/etc.
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Quote:
The technical grade on actual wear is better than VF35 and appears 45 at least. It was likely net graded for cleaning/eye appeal/etc.


Agreed.
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I'm OK with 35. Might be strike, but there looks like clear wear on Liberty's head and eagle's left leg.
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There is luster in the protected areas, which means a MINIMUM of an EF-45 grade. But it looks cleaned, so the graders may have market-graded it.
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Strictly for circulation rub, I'd agree with the 45. But there is a bit more going on with the splotchy tone and numerous hits than can be seen well in the photos.

If I can't hold the coin in my own hands, I'll agree that PCGS did so and know what they are doing (MOST of the time).
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XF-40.
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I agree with PCGS on this one. I think the original minty luster can be fooling.
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Still amazes me to see a high VF coin with traces of minty luster still on it. ;)
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