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Is it not time to have a fake/counterfeit category, they hardly are classic US coinage? |
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Two comments. First is that the first seller's feedback is for just about everything but coinage, but I'm sure he knows it's a "replica". Second, and this is actually a bit ironic, here we have an "1878" with a SAF reverse (which is possible). Usually it's some other date with the wrong PAF reverse (which would have also been correct for this date).
Colligo ergo sum
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07/29/2015 11:37 pm
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The seller says it's made of copper and from China. What more do you want? 99 cents seems fair.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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It's illegal to sell and import in the US, thq.
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Right. I'm calling 911 to report it. Or maybe I should call the Treasury Department. ebay is an exchange and caveat emptor. The seller in this case, by saying that it's copper and made in China, is telling everyone that it's a fake. Granted, the advertising is semi-fraudulent, but I don't think it constitutes a federal case. Especially over something that costs less than a flashlight. The people with the jars and old bank rolls bother me a lot more. They have a clear intent to defraud even though they're using real coins. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/30/2015 08:47 am
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Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of seeing posts like this...
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The seller in this case, by saying that it's copper and made in China, is telling everyone that it's a fake. Granted, the advertising is semi-fraudulent, but I don't think it constitutes a federal case. Especially over something that costs less than a flashlight. I think you're missing the point. Once such are let loose in the secondary market, will similar disclosure be necessarily made? Or will somebody else down the road, probably a noob to the hobby, get ripped off for a considerably higher price? This worldwide distribution of this kind of junk is very much to be exposed and fought tooth and nail, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here who feels this way. Quote:
Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of seeing posts like this... Title says it all, you're perfectly free to pass it by and not open it. But I'll remark once more that perhaps the powers that be in this forum ought to seriously consider establishing a "Counterfeits and Forgeries" category as a clearinghouse for this sort of information. Colligo ergo sum
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07/30/2015 10:29 am
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Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of seeing posts like this. Yes, let's hide our heads in the sand and pretend this problem doesn't exist. |
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Yes we all agree its a problem Dave. Some of us are tired of having our heads pounded into the sand about it. Start a Counterfeits category and take the discussion over there.
The tone in Foreign Coins is a lot different. Early counterfeits are avidly collected.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/30/2015 09:40 am
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The tone in Foreign Coins is a lot different. Early counterfeits are avidly collected. You're talking of course about the 18th & 19th century Spanish/Mexican coins, generally in the 8 reales denomination, for which contemporary counterfeits and restrikes are a field worthy of research & numismatic interest. However, even with respect to that genre, very deceptive modern forgeries, mostly originating in China, are polluting the marketplace and have become a cause for concern. Examples: http://www.ebay.com/sch/6_98979/m.h...047675.l2562Colligo ergo sum
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07/30/2015 11:49 am
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Lucky has a good point, I think it's time for a counterfeit sub-category.
I know where I'll be 98% of the time LOL..
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CoinHuntingDrew, you should mention this in the Suggestions topic on CCF, maybe Bobby will consider it.
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I'm glad people post links to fake and altered coins on this forum. I never knew ebay was flooded with so many. |
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I think we have now established that ebay is not the most reliable coin resource, unless of course you like fake coins and such... |
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Yes we all agree its a problem Dave. Some of us are tired of having our heads pounded into the sand about it. Start a Counterfeits category and take the discussion over there.
Coin Community is here for the new collectors. They need to know how rampant the counterfeiting problem is - it would not be aggravating you if it weren't so common that fakes are found every single day in the marketplace. Our mission is to teach new collectors about these things, and you want us to hide it in a subforum? Nope. Never. If y'all are annoyed about this, then do something about it. Write the FTC. Contact your Congresscritter. Act. That's the whole point of this - the brighter light we can shine on the problem, the more likely we'll eventually make enough noise to be heard. |
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