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Faustina Augusta Sestertius

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please help with ID of this sestertius.
I identified it as a Faustina Minor coin but never found a sestertius with exactly the same reverse...is this rare?

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 Posted 07/30/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See wildwinds RIC 710, reverse is Commodus and Annius Verus. The coin on wildwinds is a denarius but no reason why there could not be a sestertius. If it is real it should be worth a bit!
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 Posted 07/30/2015  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one sold at auction for $500

Not quite the same though, your coin looks like she has some type of diadem

http://www.coinproject.com/coin_det...?coin=242439
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 Posted 07/30/2015  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post the size and weight of the coin? It looks pretty thick. This does appear to be a variation of RIC 1665. Very nice coin.
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 Posted 07/31/2015  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is your coin with the diadem on wildwinds with references

RIC 1665, Cohen 193, BMC 937
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Die match?

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 Posted 07/31/2015  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had something nagging in the back of my tiny brain about having seen one of these before.
And the debate about its authenticity.
It is a very desirable type !
That's the first part of an equation that ends badly.
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 Posted 07/31/2015  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why do you think it is fake?
I found it myself in Aquileia about 4 days ago



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thanks for help, later I will put here my other coins I found there. I'm not an expert in this matter

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 Posted 07/31/2015  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you allowed to keep these?
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 Posted 07/31/2015  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All my coins I found I put to museum
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I am not "sure" it is fake !
I am just not sure it is real either.
I have a faint memory of having seen a fake one of these. The fact that it is a rare and desirable type makes it so much easier to fool someone eager to believe.
Burying and or 'antiquing' an ancient coin is one way of making a fake coin real.
We recently saw a large silver coin of Syracuse which the owner came into by way of uncertain source. The coin looked really good. The fact that one of identical weight and similar marking led me to believe the same coin had been 'cooked' to make it taste better.
It smelled like poop to me.
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Let me add I am dubious about the photo. Coins look a bit too good to have been freshly pulled from the earth.
Two thousand years of oxidation does not usually fall away so easily.
Bronze coins require conservation under almost all circumstances.
Something does not smell right to me

That's the last I will say

Perhaps one of our resident detectorists might chime in
I will believe what they say
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OK I see that you don't dig... Condition of brass coins can be very different, and according to my small experience (3 years of digging) there is no regularity. From the same field I picked up sestertii and asses (I assume the same period +/- 200 years) completely wrecks. And this one almost mint. Sometimes even 100 yo brass coins look like piece of corroded sheet. A lot of factors included, but for me the greatest is pH of ground, metal composion and the most important - LUCK!! Because scratched by agricultural machines coins corrode quicker.

But I don't want to persuade You. Why should I? I don't want to sell it or something. For me it is priceless even if it costed 5$. 1900 years of history!!

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 Posted 07/31/2015  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry "BRONZE" coins I meant of course.
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Nice sharp lettering
well centered
Full complete legends
EF portraits
Unencrusted too

You have been digging up treasure for 3 years but you "are no expert".
Please help ID this sestertius ?
The museum has no clue ?
This isn't rocket science


I think I could go on but ........

Count me sceptical

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the only thing that left me to say is:
thank you for appreciate my find ;)

better take a look at other (probably rare) sestertius of Manlia Scantilla that I found

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