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Thinking About Pulling The Trigger: Flowing Hair Dollar

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I like this one. Anybody here have some of these?

http://www.valleycoin.com/product_i...cts_id=35907

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I know absolutely nothing about these. It's an awesome coin, but my eye was immediately drawn to the scratches if front of the neck. Have you shopped around much? I'd be real careful before I droped 4.5K on a coin.
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I also don't know much about flowing hair dollars; but I was wondering why the owner of the coin didn't give it an acetone bath especially the reverse.
I guess he was afraid of doing any harm to the coin.
Yes, the obverse scratches were the first thing that I saw. your call !
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Highly advise you read the rules again.
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I would go for this one instead: 161776685330

$4,125 is WAY too much for that coin, especially with those scratches. Maybe $3000 or 3500 at the VERY most.
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Seems like a nice coin to me. I guess it comes down to how much money you have to spend and if you think you will still be happy with it a year from now
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The scratches should be a details grade.
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The obverse scratches are a bit of a problem. But I think the stains, spots, discoloration, (and more scratches) on the reverse are a much bigger problem. Bottom line: poor eye appeal for the price. I wouldn't be satisfied looking at this coin a year after purchase.
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I think it's overgraded, it's a bottom end F-12 or a high end VG-10.

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The grading services are somewhat liberal with early US gold and silver classic coins. A lot of stuff like scratches and adjustment marks get a free pass when the numbers are added up.
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I agree with Classic Coins, if you're going to buy a stained scratched-up coin, you might as well get one in a higher-grade details holder at a mucher lower price ie:
http://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dolla...bnail-071515
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Jack Beymer usually has a few of these in similar condition, might try his shop before you pull the trigger (I get nothing from him for mentioning that), he is just a nice guy that has always gone out of his way to get me a really nice coin when I needed/wanted one at a very fair price. Down side is he doesn't really have any photographs of his coins on his monthly list, but it's worth a call at the least, could save you a lot of $$$.
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My immediate reaction was that I thought that it was overgraded, despite being slabbed.
Those obverse scratches are not scratches, they are weight adjustment filing marks. They were left on the flan before the image was impressed by the obverse die.
Adjustment marks are more commonly seen on European dollar sized coins of this period.
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I agree, the main problem with this coin is that it is a bit overgraded and overpriced.
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Quote:
they are weight adjustment filing marks


That is seriously cool. I never heard of that. Thanks for the info.
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I had thought they might be adjustment marks, but in any event whether they are scratches or adjustment marks they reduce the attractiveness. I don't like the overall appearance.
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