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New Member
 United States
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The so called experts on here have a problem with respecting people, their minds are made up without seeing the coin in person, but when some came out and told me they could make the coin in their garage or disrespected me family well hard to believe you are experts in anything certainly not diplomacy, like robmck1967. By the way collecting experience does not make an expert. I could collect cars all my life but if I do not know how they are made or who made them how to fix them or learn to drive them I have accomplished only one fifth of what I need to know.
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New Member
 United States
46 Posts |
Pacificoin explain to me why you think the coin is a fake?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5404 Posts |
I use to experiment with my dads vise in his workshop and also quite extensively in shop classes back in the day. It was just amazing the errors you could turn out with the proper tools. It really is best if you just send the coin in to the certification company of your choice .and post the results here. If it is legit I for one will help pay your fees . I think my twenty bucks is safe! Mods it really is time to can this thread. Most annoying!
Edited by Pacificoin 08/10/2015 12:52 am
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New Member
 United States
46 Posts |
Badger Mint, by the way when you bring the coin pictures to your experts explain to them how you were going to make this coin in your garage it ought to be a hoot when you explain how your going to make the triple strike.
Wade, It was Badger Mint that told me he could make the coin in his garage, read the thread. I just called him out on it.
Pacificoin, No one yet has told me why they think it's a fake all they have done is insult me, I am surprised this forum has lasted this long. All I have been told is what you see here on the thread.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I am having the coin looked at and graded, and I have sent a message over to Mike Diamond of world coins. Mike Diamond has already replied to this topic, page 2. Quote: As others have said, this cent was crushed between a second cent and a counterfeit die composed of relatively soft metal. An unstruck planchet mounted on a dowel and impressed by a cent will do the trick.
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New Member
 United States
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Pacificoin, again you did not answer the question, now you want the thread ended. Again yes I do understand what can be done with a vise. But again why do you think the coin is a fake and this cannot be produced in the Mint at the time with all the tools they had?
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
Strangecoins, you were told repeatedly why this coin is a fake and the only claim that you have made to it being a mint product is that a family member found it, which is no explanation at all. Now despite thinking better of it, I will ask you to prove that it is a mint product. Explain in detail how this particular coin with a total of 6 impressions from 3 dies made in non consecutive years was a mint product. Explain the order of strikes including die positions, collar positions and the number of struck pieces that would have been required for the various brockages. Explain how one side has a centered reverse brockage over a struck coin while the other side has multiple off center strikes. By the way, I don't expect you to answer my questions as your previous posts show that you don't seem to have even the most basic knowledge of the minting process let alone the desire to believe the truth about this coin. As always, have nice day.
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New Member
 United States
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SlurExe97, I suggest you look at the multi strike again The soft die theory does not hold water because the coin is copper to begin with lead is softer than copper but would not create an image Also this is from the info page you sent me to "Genuine coins struck a second time by soft counterfeit dies show soft, blended overlap between the original, genuine design and the counterfeit second design." The Item shown there as an example is so blurred it can barely be read not consistent with this coin. And again not all The incuse, reversed devices are from a vise job. Brockage and end caps example. Also no one has given me a sufficient answer to why anyone would make a coin like this in the 40s, wheres the Motive people.
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
Not going to explain how the mint made your family coin, are you?
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
I'm going to bed. I will expect your report on the minting process of your coin in the morning.
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New Member
 United States
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Badger Mint, I can show you several off center strikes die collars missing capped dies, Uniface Strikes, Misaligned Dies, Brokage Strikes, Die Break Cuds, Multiple Strikes, US Coin Struck On Foreign Planchets (also some of these have non consecutive years) a Triple Struck Lincoln Cent that defies belief but is an accepted error, most are not the same and follow no logical reason for existing but they do. But what I asked you was why you thought this was impossible to have been made in the mint and so far the best you can come up with is the date issue, when it's a known fact even foreign coins have been over struck, Wow lame and you question my wifes integrity. Here's a real good one for you find a coin struck in the forties like this one even a fake as of today this is the only coin that shows up. I was told by one Canadian Coin Company that they see these all the time. I did a 3 day search for any coin resembling this on came up with Nada. So again I ask You why would someone bother to create a coin like this back in the 40s for what good reason why spend all the time and money.
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New Member
 United States
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mike diamond, Your editor forwarded you an email with Much higher res picture today look at them and read the email the res of the pictures on this site is bad.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 08/10/2015 02:20 am
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Valued Member
Canada
491 Posts |
I'm going to leave it as We'll see only because what if he sends it to ICCS and they cert it as an error then what?. I have seen some very strange thing in my years of collecting and surprises and We'll See what comes tomorrow
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New Member
 United States
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Strach-Man, thanks I try just put it on to see what would be said never expected to see so many violent reactions and accusations. I doubted the coin being fake mainly because of it being put away for so many years and the sheer ridiculous thought of someone faking A Canadian Coin back then to make money. In the last 20 years sure but even in that case the coin has been in my wife's jewelry box since 79 were talking 36 years there alone and that can be verified by at least 40 people she knows. So thanks for the benefit of the doubt.
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