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New Member
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Here's a Canadian Penny that has been Struck a few times. I know this coin a has been in jewelry boxes since the late 40s My wife's Grandmother, who found the coin and my wife, who received it in 1979.   |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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 to CCF! Why is the reverse incused  |
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United States
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 The date is different too. The obverse looked legit but the reverse looks like a vise job. The devices on the obverse are not reversed suggesting a multiple strike. The reverse being reversed devices has me thinking. Interesting coin. |
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 United States
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Yeh it's got some serious issues but according to old mint books Mint employees would clear dies with cull coins especially during WWII when copper was in demand The US IN 1943 HAD STEEL CENTS! I have been told that never happened but many Mint employees say different. I have been also told that it is impossible to do but the die machines back then were different. same idea but were smaller and easier to access . The only thing is I bet thats how some of the die breaks occurred, put enough stress on a die it breaks.
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United States
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Also when this coin was made there would have been no value in creating it Not just as an error but also as a Canadian Coin which just started to become of value in the last 20 years. Remember the 1955DD penny only gained value in the sixties long after this coin was already in My wife's Grandmother's Jewelery box which I can verify.
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Canada
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The incuse, reversed devices are from a vise job, where this cent was squeezed using another one. The "multi strike" you see here are from soft dies, essentially PMD. I suggest you see this thread and this site for more info on this. Had it been really struck twice by cent dies, the first strike would be almost completely obliterated. |
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@ StrangeCoins, this did not happen at the Mint,even way back in the 40's people had tools and curiosity.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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We could crank out a few right now in the garage vise, to just show him how easily it's accomplished here..  Please also note how the rims have been squished around.... Now if you really wanted to play games here,..you could grind/file off the rims of the sacrificial cent,... and then squish them together softly.... for the desired effect.. "Practice makes Perfect" |
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Canada
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This one on the other hand is a little more special. ebay 281764357773. I really like it, but at the current level of US$449 I am going to pass. While scarce, there are many fish in the sea! Edited by Smallcentguy
08/09/2015 3:13 pm
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United States
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All you guys who think you can produce this coin in a vice DO IT NOW and PROVE IT "I DARE YOU" If you can produce one like this I'll believe you, but until you do I don't believe you there are a lot of you armchair experts out there that really believe yourselves but none of you will be able to produce this unless you have the use of a mint. The triple strike alone would be impossible the obverse incused side is call a mirror and has happen in the mints ask the people who actually make them. Anad again why would anyone make one unless by accident There was no money in errors back then even in 13th Edition1960 Red Book The 1955DD was $55.00 UNCIRCULATED. AND Again this is a Canadian coin which was not as collectable the work alone was more than it's worth |
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And using an inflation calculator, $55 in 1960 was the equivalent to $432 today ... that's a decent sum of money, so they were certainly collected. We're not going to convince you, so best of luck with your coin.
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United States
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No you won't convince me Until you prove but because you can't can you. I get a kick out of some of you guy's always the experts but you have never hung around with mint employees and heard there stories, not just the office jockeys but the guys who run the machines. Or do you actually know what has changed in the mint world or the different machines and how they have changed.
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You also forget there was a WAR on at the time this was produced and people were not interested in creating Copper origami but were just figuring out how to stay alive or get gas for there car.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Why not send it in to CCCS? They will certify error coins. And its a good way to preserve it and get more money if you decide to let it go anytime in the future.
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there was a WAR on at the time At the time the coin was minted, yes... However it could have happend to this coin sometime in the 50's, 60's, 70's etc. |
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United States
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Well, just to throw my Two Cents into this mix, I CAN duplicate this error in my garage. Of course, I have die cutting and coin striking equipment in my garage. However, I can show that this piece was not done in the mint in much easier manner: The date in the upper picture is 1943 and the date in the lower picture is 1941. You can rationalize about a war being on and workers being this or that but statistically, the odds of a coin from 1941 somehow being stuck in the obverse die in 1943 to create a perfectly aligned brockage and the correct 1943 reverse die being loose enough to make one good and two off center strikes, plus have the remnants of an obverse brockage are zero. |
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Posted 08/09/2015 08:59 am
