Yes there still not great pics, I'm going to try and put it in the scanner and see if that works. I'm thinking it could be spanish as we're not too far from where the Spanish Armada was wrecked off the west coast of Ireland and also I couldn't find any reference to it in any british guides. Ha Ha didnt find anything for years and within 3 days I find this, an early Half Groat and a Musket Ball.