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1796 Dollar - Real Or Fake?

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I was wondering if this coin looks genuine or fake?

1796-Dollar---Real-Or-Fake?

1796-Dollar---Real-Or-Fake?

Can't see anything that would point to being fake, but you guys might see something I don't?
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Fake
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And if you think it's fake, why?
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It is fake. It has obvious signs of casting, the date is not correct, the color is way off, and the rims are well - collared rims and that's for starters. Sorry if you bought this as genuine.
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This one's obvious - real 1976 draped bust dollars have their denticles extend to the edges of the coin. This one has a rim where it shouldn't have one.
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Face, date, and eagle just looked funny to me.
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The existence of a rim and the vagueness of the eagle are both proof, independently, that the coin cannot be genuine. No room for question.
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The best indicator that it is fake is the fact that is was struck in a collared press, a modern minting technique that was not used in the 1700s. You can also weigh the coin to see for yourself that it has a white metal composition that weighs less than a genuine silver coin.
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I'll bet you $5 you either got this from China or got this from a seller who got coins from China.
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I'll bet you $5 you either got this from China or got this from a seller who got coins from China.


That's a pretty confrontational way to approach the topic, and will not make you any friends here. To some readers you've just accused the original poster of deliberately acquiring counterfeits.
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Agree with biokemist.
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Is it even metal? Perhaps unscientific but if the coin looks like it came out of a cracker jack box probably fake...
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That's a pretty confrontational way to approach the topic, and will not make you any friends here. To some readers you've just accused the original poster of deliberately acquiring counterfeits.


Lets also consider the op is from Norway. How many U.S $ 1.00, 1796 coins has this person seen?
Willem2904, hope this was a returnable coin.
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I agree with cast fake
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No offence taken people :-)
I haven't bought any of the coins that you guys say are fake.
I am just looking around at some auction sites like ebay (Norwegian/Swedish websites), and from time to time I see a coin which looks "nice".

I am new to coin grading, so for me it's not easy to see if a coin is real or fake. Therefore I ask you for help.

I greatly appreciate your feedback.
You've probably saved me from buying fake coins :-)
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You've probably saved me from buying fake coins :-)


Excellent. Most want to help a fellow collector avoid being ripped off by a modern counterfeit. Quite a few members here have pointed out the tell tale signs on this one.


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