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1944 Dime Clip?

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1944--Dime-Clip?
1944--Dime-Clip?
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 Posted 01/07/2008  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, my inexpert eye sees a tell-tale "Blakesly effect" on the rim opposite the clip. This suggests the clip was present during striking of this coin. Nice find!
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oooo nice! clips on merucry dimes carry a nicer premium than clips on current dimes! Nice find! Congrats!
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Can you enlightenen a newbie by explaining what the Blakesly effect might be?
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Sweet, I finally found something! Whats the value would you say?
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On the rim opposite the clip there is an indentation on the rim. The is formed during the upset process. When the plancet has a clip, the edge of the coin where the clip is doesn't press the rim 180 degrees opposite the clip. The rim is weak in this area. So one way to see that it is a real clip is to watch for the Blakesly mark (not at strong on the rim) 180 degrees from the clip on the rim. Sometimes you see it on the obverse or reverse and on this coin you can see it on both obv/rev. Its a reassurance that this coin was not clipped later to look like clip. Also a second tell tale sign is the weakness of the design where the clip starts and finishes.
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Lucky 13, I'm a relative newbie to this subject too. From what I've read, it's explained that a planchet clip results in an open area where metal under pressure flows, causing a loss of strike pressure on the opposite side, producing an area of low relief around the opposing edge.
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So anyone else have opinions?
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It is a genuine clipped planchet on a 1944 dime. No doubt about that. I can't price it though.

Whatever you do, don't clean it, just leave it as is.

Its a nice coin. I dont think the prices on these are stratospheric but it is probably better that $30.00 but again, that is a guess on my part.
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It was in a plastic container my Uncle gave me last night, how do you tell if it has been cleaned? Can you tell in the pictures? I have a magnifier. How do I tell?
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Should I send this out to PCGS? Would it make a difference?
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I'm going to take this down to my coin dealer and have it checked out.
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JRockCa

Nice incomplete planchet ,, the coin has not been cleaned as far as I can tell from the pic,,

having it encapsulated will not help that much ,,its obviously a legitimate error although not an extreme example (Minimal planchet loss) , and the grade is not very high around EF-40 to 45 .

the value is very hard to determine on coins like this ,, Merc's garner somewhat more interest than the Roosevelt series for errors but it really depends on how many want the coin at any given time ,in an auction if two ,three or four people get going it could bring the 30 dollars mentioned or slightly less or slightly more .

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With PCGS, it'll cost you whether it slabs or comes back, "body bagged".

You would lose on the deal. The coin is not at a high enough level valuwise to make it worth slabbing.

There is no doubt that it is a clip.

I suggested not cleaning it so you don't try to remove whatever the black stuff is. It's not really worth doing a lot to it that would cost you money. You could put 50 bucks into conserving a 35 dollar coin.
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Its a very nice fined it as keeper just find a nice holder and that will do u fine!
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Not worth a slab in that condition, I wouldn't bother. It is a genuine error, though.
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