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$5,000 Reward Offered For 2007 10,000 Yuan Gold Panda Stolen At Chicago ANA

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Numismatic Crime Information Center - A 2007 10,000 Yuan Gold Panda (Kilo) in original mint capsule Cert#84 was taken from the table of Emporium Hamburg at the recent ANA show in Chicago,IL. The company is offering a $5,000 reward for its return.

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Ugh.

Another reason I think all dealers at a show should have video surveillance on their tables. Systems are so cheap today.
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Something has to change in the way dealer's show high value coin's at the tables, don't think they will see that coin again
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Who leaves a 36,000 dollar piece of easily transportable metal where someone can just come along and take it? Not trying to victim blame here but seriously if that was my coin I would not leave it unsecured where someone could just pick it up and walk off with it.
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Steele 100% I wouldn't take my eyes off the person looking at it for one second. Good luck to the owner
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and back to my original point - a camera system would cost less than $200 and would at least be a bit of a deterrent.

Also at $36k I'd hire security!
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I agree!
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Or put a tracking device on the coin holder, maybe!
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Hmmm.... Insurance job?
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Also at $36k I'd hire security!

Could you see that at all the major shows? Each table surrounded by security guards and the customers can't get close to the tables.
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Each table surrounded by security guards and the customers can't get close to the tables.

Haha - indeed.

But seriously...when you have something with such a high value density... it's silly to put it out on display without some kind of protection. We've all heard way too many stories about thefts from/at coin shows.

"Oh, you want to see this $36k coin? Please bask in its glory within this heavy acrylic case equipped with LoJack. To physically hold it you must trade me a stack of 360 $100 bills, which will be returned to you when the coin is back in its case. Oh and smile for the camera. This? Why yes, I do have a concealed carry license for this .45."
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When I was at the Colorado Springs show, there was only one dealer who had a security camera system at his table. I commended him on it, and he said is was just a simple precaution and he didn't understand why other dealers weren't doing it.

Also, some of the dealers I visited didn't exercise personal security. I would sit down and start looking through their piles of boxes of 2x2s, and they would divert their attention so something or someone else, and they let me stack the boxes in a way that blocked their view of what I was doing (unintentionally; I was just trying to go through as many coins as possible in the limited time I had). I could have easily stolen hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars in coins while they weren't paying attention. (And no I didn't steal anything; I couldn't live with myself if I did). I pay attention to these things, and I should start telling the dealers about their lapse in security.
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Do people really buy $36k coins from a dealer table? (I'll never see that much money in one place, so I have no idea!)
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Do people really buy $36k coins from a dealer table? (I'll never see that much money in one place, so I have no idea!)
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I don't think so! Anyway, to solve the problem of not ever seeing that much money in one place, if you ever make a trip to Atlanta, GA, be sure to stop at the Federal Bureau bank. They have a pallet with $2,400,000.00 worth of $5 bills in it. Then you can pick up free bags of shredded money! Admission is free and you can see a lot of cool stuff there.
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I don't think so!


Seen it many times.
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ANA 2013, I was chatting to a nice dealer about around a $100 purchase. He sees somebody passing by and asks me if he can show something to "a buyer from Tokyo". He pulls a slab from his pocket, shows it to the gentleman... who looks it over and hands it back saying "Nice, but not for me". Whereupon the dealer turns back to me and hands me the slab saying "you have to look at this". It was clear I knew nothing about Morgan dollars so he proceeded to spend about 10 minutes starting to educate me about the $75,000 Morgan in something like MS67+ he had pulled out from his pocket.
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