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1994 LMC Interior Cud?

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1994-LMC---Interior-Cud?

1994-LMC---Interior-Cud?
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Not seeing a Cud on this coin, I do see a die crack with a chip above column 9 on the memorial. Is this the feature you are referring to?
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For a die break to be considered a Cud, it needs to affect the rim of the coin, which this one doesn't.
Nice find though!

What is that between columns 1 & 2?
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That's the feature. You think it's just a chip?
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I'm new to all of this, just my opinion based on what I learned from my post here. https://goccf.com/t/237959
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Yes, I remember that post SheltieGuy, I'm the one that told you about the northeast part. This one might be a crack with a gouge, I'm not sure it's big enough.
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Cwb, What is an Interior Cud?
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Cuds to my understanding affect the rim, I am not sure how to distinguish between a die chip and an interior die break. I had asked this question in a post before but never really got an answer. Is the difference just in the size of the affected area? How do we differentiate between chip and break?
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That I'd a die crack leading into a die chip or broken die. Cud have to include the rim idk if there is really an interior Die Cud that could just be something someone made up . Here is Ken Potters page on Cuds http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/WhatIsACud.htm
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Difference between a chip and gouge is a gouge is at least 4 sq mm.
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There are some examples of die chips/breaks and Cuds on this page: http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/cuds.html
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Your coin has a die crack leading to a retained interior die break above column #9. Column bay #1 shows the beginning stages of an interior die break, as well. You can see other examples here:

Retained Interior Die Breaks: http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...r-die-break/
Interior Die Breaks: http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...b-1959-2008/
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Thanks everyone, I now believe this to be a retained interior die break.
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Since there are no signs of details showing in the area in question, and it is obviously raised, it is not a retained interior die break. It is a die chip.
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cwb, that's a good distinction. Noted.

I thought it was similar in shape and location to part of the RIDB-1c-1982-01R on this page: [url]http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-retained-interior-die-break/[url]

What's the difference, please? Thanks in advance.
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You can see the details of the design inside of the break on RIDB-1c-1982-01R. On this coin, the area is raised and you cannot see the details so the piece of die must be missing. If it is missing, it is not retained.
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