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Automatically Separating Wheat And Canadian Pennies

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 Posted 08/26/2015  5:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PaulKrush to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I upgraded my Ryedale to sort out the wheat pennies. Well sort of. I choose not to use the coin discriminator's solenoid, but I could have. This system is currently sorting about 2 pennies a second, continuously. One solenoid and 2 physical bins are set up. Yes it's missing wheats that come out heads up. I am planning to deal with this, but for now I am just happy it works as well as it does.

Why did I build it? I would like to design a low cost and easy to build DIY coin sorter. To help with this design process, I built this proof of concept you see in the video below. Let me know what you think of it...

CAD files, Code, and future plans are at:
https://github.com/GemHunt/CoinSorter

Here is a video of it in action:
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For those of you who are technically inclined:

It uses a Caffe deep learning framework out on AWS GPU instance to distinguish between designs of coins. For example you can train a convolutional neural network (CNN, what Caffe uses) to determine if a coin image is heads vs tails or say to recognize the state on a random US State Quarter image. Using the "copper" image set out on GemHunt.com, Caffe can tell heads vs tails between US copper pennies 99.9% of the time. I have been doing this using NVidia's DIGITS web interface to Caffe with the default setting of AlexNet.

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 Posted 08/26/2015  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's pretty amazing, nice work! In the future I wonder if you could detect verdigris ones too? I still hand sort but I separate the verg pennies out so they won't spread to the good coins.
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 Posted 08/26/2015  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bud250r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very amazing. There might be a small market for something like that.
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 Posted 08/26/2015  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buymyemu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What camera are you using?

I can't see the video, my internet is not working (Sprint SUCKS! 9 calls in 2 months).

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 Posted 08/26/2015  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great work! Now that coin design recognition is in the hands of the public, I wonder how long before someone will be able to grade them using a computer. The tech has been there for a long time - but only with expensive machines like those used in quality control departments of manufacturers.

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Finding coins with vertigris should be pretty easy. Tone sorting is a piece of cake. General grading is easy, say something like good, better, best. When real grading is possible so is a machine that can hunt for error coins. Of course some errors/rare coins are easier than others. Wide/narrow AM transiton types are going to be pretty easy to sort out.

I also see this as a way to manually inspect coins quickly. One can set it up to always rotate the coin correctly on the computer screen, or even just look at a the same magnified area over and over for each coin that goes by. This is where a nicer camera is handy.

I'm currently using a Canon Rebel T5i, but a $5 web cam would do the same job for sorting like I am doing currently.

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 Posted 08/26/2015  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating. I'm hooked. Tell us more!
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 Posted 08/26/2015  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will wait for a more... um what did you just say?

Good luck, I will look for it in stores to sort my 1982s I have been keeping for a while now.
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 Posted 08/26/2015  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is wonderful! I wish I had the time to try it out myself, I'm sure I would learn a lot on a project like this. Thank you for sharing.

If you wanted to image both sides of a coin, would it be easier to use a transparent belt and image through the underside for simultaneous 2-side imaging, or could you flip the coin and then image the other side easier; say by having it fall halfway off one belt onto a belt below going the opposite way?

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 Posted 08/26/2015  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly also a way to find rotated die errors if both sides could be seen at one time. I had thought of rolling coins thorugh a very narrow (and transparent sided) incline with a webcam on each side to find rotated dies.

This was while working on another major projct though. I would have to do some homework to set up the equipment, programming etc. By today's standards I am a bit rusty. I currenlty have other projects I want to get done, so am not sure I will get to something like this. It would be fun though.
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Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
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 Posted 08/27/2015  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaulKrush to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neat ideas. I forgot about rotated die errors. It's hard to decide what to work on next...
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Whatever time you've invested is well worth the effort. Very good use of a little engineering skill to make us coineys happy.
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