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Pillar of the Community
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I enjoyed it, Mike. It's always nice and helpful to get input from everyone. I've always enjoyed a good mystery, maybe we can do another one sometime.
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This post is from Sept 2015.
Edited by CoinMasters 02/03/2017 3:46 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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So I have two questions. If these are a bad mixture issue, why are the lines always straight? If they're from a bad mixture, they should not be able to be sanded of the coin?
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Just my opinion Coop, they may be straight, but not necessarily. The cent only represents small portions of the lines. Long curved lines appear straight when viewed in small portions like a Lincoln Cent. Come to think of it, they appear straight on almost all Woodys, sometimes not continuous, sometimes wider or narrowly spaced. It all depends on the portion of the mix a particular planchet is made from. The widths vary on the OP's coin. The insufficiently mixed portion goes all the way through on a two sided Woody, but part of the mixture is mixed better on the one sided Woody. The batches are unevenly mixed, some sufficiently and some not. Otherwise there would be all Woodys or no Woodys. If you cut through a coin to see the lines, the cut hides them. I guess I'm just a Traditionalist when it comes to Woodies. lol I do believe with the modern clad Woodies some could be roller lines, the discoloration seems to support that. When sanded or worn and the lines disappear supports it too, as well as the traditional Woody that doesn't go all the way through. One thing's for sure though, whether one believes Woody's are caused by an improper mix or roller marks, it's all theoretical.
Edited by CoinMasters 02/03/2017 11:03 pm
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Look at the line at the bottom of the date on the OP's coin. See how far it is from the line below it? Now look at how close both lines become at the left side of the coin. They are not parallel. Also note the different colors. Rollers or mix?
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I think asking something to stay perfectly parallel after being struck with 50+ tons of pressure would be asking a bit much.  Thanks, Doug.
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Halo1st, I don't see how it could make some lines off in one direction, and others off in another. It certainly can't account for the different colors. Mike was talking about an even discoloration of the entire surface on clad coins, caused in part by excessive heat. The OP's coin is multi-colored. The only thing I can think of that would cause that is an improper alloy mix. That's my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs as well. Without a targeted study at the mint, the cause of Woodys will remain a theory. Everything in this post has been repeated over and over. Can we give it a rest now?
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Probably when someone tries to sand the surface of one of these examples. If it is a bad mix, then it should show all through the cent. But if it is just a surface issue, then it would sand off. Then we will know for sure. I feel it will sand off the coin as it is just surface. On a woody, sanding the surface will not make this go away as it is deep into the planchet, not in the surface. I wish I had time. So maybe someday I will get a chance. Just too busy now to try this.
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I think the mix is unevenly mixed, that is part of the mix is adequately mixed and part is not. Some Woodys go all the way through to the other side of the coin, and some are only on one side, some are only on part of one side. (insufficiently mixed) We will never know. All of this has been covered previously.
Edited by CoinMasters 02/05/2017 12:34 am
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