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How The Heck Do You Find Something As Old As 1900?

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 Posted 09/06/2015  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MK - your numbers are good and the range is good as well. It's hard to find LWCs because of the relatively low mintage numbers (as compared to LMCs and LSCs). It only takes a few modern era dates to equal all of the LWCs minted; think about that for a bit. Also, the LWCs have been vanishing since 1959. 56 years of folks, collectors and non-collectors pulling them from circulation. More obsolescence.

To hoard LWCs in large numbers, you need volume, volume, volume. To find one from each date, you need volume, volume, and chance. To find semi-key and key dates you need volume, volume, volume, volume, and chance. Completing a set of Lincoln Cents will require buying bags of LWCs to search and buying coins outright. No other way I imagine.

So don't despair. Your finds are in line with the rest of us. Some of the lucky have found one or two semi-key/key coins and it is EXCITING for all of us! Fun to see one plucked from the wild. So stay at it and enjoy the hunt. And if you are like most, you'll take up Variety hunting to offset the low yield boxes (5 or so). And for the most part, the Variety/Error cents are more valuable than the average LWCs you'll be finding.

Good luck!!
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 Posted 09/06/2015  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tyler Wood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i usally find about 20-25 wheats per box and 1 indian per 4 boxes. the oldest ive found is a 1895 Indian cent plus a 1905 in same box.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add teo2015 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I went roll hunting last weekend though 20 rolls looking for 2009 lincoln pennies, and found 12 wheats and not a single 2009. Wheats still appear more common than 2009s.
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With respect to all CRHs, your odds in today's world are worse
than the lottery, especially when you consider the time and gas money involved.

Personally, I would spend the time reading everything about my favorite series and then step up to the plate and buy something.

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Roll hunting is a great way to get oldies. My first week of serious half dollar hunting gave up an 1894 Barber half. Volume searching is where it's at, and it's entirely possible to find seated and Barber coinage not to mention Indian cents and others. A metal detecting friend of mine picked up roll hunting recently where I left off. He's already scored a Seated dime, several Barbers, mercs and silver Canadians, not to mention scores of silver Roosevelts. Anything's possible when roll hunting, don't let them tell you otherwise. I've been in the hobby since the 1970's, and have found more silver recently than I did 30 years ago.
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Okay, so you CRS, and you get a little silver and a few LWC worth a few cents each (less shipping!).

C'mon.

It may be fun, but - show me the beef for the staggering amount of time invested.

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Okay, so you CRS, and you get a little silver and a few LWC worth a few cents each (less shipping!).

C'mon.

It may be fun, but - show me the beef for the staggering amount of time invested.
Coinfrog, are you saying I have C-R-S disease? ha, (anyone over 50 y.o. can relate).

Staggering amount of time?

When I was crh'ing halves, my pickup and dump time was around one hour, and less than $5 gas, per week. I could search a box of halves in about 10 minutes, not having to re-roll.

Dimes rolls otoh, I can search and re-roll in about 10 seconds flat, and could hit $1k worth in about an hour with a couple breaks, edge searching only.

When one is going through thousands of dollars in coin per week, a method is developed. I sometimes wish I could search in leisure, but the monkey on my back insists that I speed search to see the pile of keepers grow as fast as possible. I do have a life, after all...
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 Posted 09/06/2015  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice try with this "I'm speedier-than-light reply." No doubt you are.

Show us some numbers on time invested versus money earned.

With total respect!

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Nice try with this "I'm speedier-than-light reply." No doubt you are.

Show us some numbers on time invested versus money earned.

With total respect!

Like many of my hobbies, including dirtfishing, it's all about the thrill of the hunt, and nothing about earning money. That's what my nine-to-five is for. I have thousands of dollars invested in metal detectors and equipment but have never sold any finds, don't need to. My finds will be passed on to family when I pass, they can do what they want, who cares, I won't.

The only finds I've ever sold were about 1,000 40% silver halves, which were taking up much needed space in the safe-deposit.
The nice profit earned I turned around and bought up .999.
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You are both right, of course.

I can relate with fistful: finding a coin in the ground or in a roll that has been overlooked for decades is great fun. The challenge of building a circulated set of anything can be exciting as long as you keep a reasonable perspective. The time spent sifting through a sea of coins without finding much can be discouraging at times, but for the most part, it's a relaxing hobby with an occasional spot of excitement. I'd rather be doing that than getting drawn into the 'idiot box' (aka TV as my grandfather called it).

Undoubtedly there are coins that we will never find sifting the sea. For those, doing the research and finding alternate channels is important (Coinfrog). I'm lucky; the LCS I go to has a bid board where other hobbyists post coins for sale and if you're the top bidder, you collect a nice specimen usually for a fraction of what you would on ebay. If you post a few of your own/extras, you can fund your purchases to some extent. A fun way to do it! Others though will need to be purchased from dealers (or at shows, the 'bay, etc.). So do the research and pay the lowest accepted offer.

Some have the means to buy, and some don't. Yet nobody is left out of the hobby; we make it what it is for ourselves. So sift the sea or spend the time researching a buy. Do what works for you. Good luck folks!!
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Luck and volume. I've found a bunch pre1900 nickels and pennies in last 5 years...
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I do about 130,000 cents a year on average, my friend does about 912,500 a year (a penny box a day, he's 69)
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The time I spend CRHing cents is well spent IMHO. I am not in this hobby to make a profit.
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i try to do a box of pennies a day got more new 2015 solid boxes this year than ever before.im up to 894 wheats pulled out of boxes this year.seems like my average is 5 wheats per box
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It's a myth that LWC's are disappearing, as soon as someone pulls one from circulation, someone else spends another. How do you think we still find those things?
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