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Why Aren't People Hoarding Memorial Cents By Now?

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Because they haven't made any Lincoln Memorial cents in seven years, why aren't any people hoarding them like people hoarded wheats in the '60s and '70s?
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I hoard 59 and 59-D, as well as S mint memorials. I don't have a good answer for "why."
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I know there were/are people hoarding the older Memorial cents for the copper content. Of course, it is illegal to melt them down and has been since 2006.

For the Zincoln Memorial cents part of 1982/1983-2008 the coins don't hold up too well.

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Simple. Billions upon billions of Memorials compared to millions and millions of wheats. There are too many memorials still in existence. Give it a few decades, when we have either eliminated the cent and billions are melted or the older cents start to get terrible verdigris and chemically fuse together, and are pulled from circulation and sent to the mint to be melted by banks or individuals.

Then, and only then, you'll see them being hoarded and carrying the premiums wheats do.
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I've hoarded my fair share! Of course I've been roll searching and buying for many years only keeping the best of the best. The vast majority of what's left out there are crappy. You can even buy pristine mint sets and the Lincoln(s) is beat-up, stained and/or spotted. 99+% of the BU's you find (either in circ or from dealers) are the same. If they aren't, they are poorly struck, missing detail or covered in plating blisters.....except for VERY few.

So, yes, there are billions of them as Groszy points out (but most of them are crap). This is the same attitude dealers have had for decades now. Really, every dealer I've talked to has little to no interest in Memorials because there are "billions". The reality is, there are billions of low-end to mid-range coins and, at most, only thousands worthy of being in a serious, high-end collection.

Until you get serious about collecting Memorial Cents and spend a lot of time searching for high-end gems, you won't get what I'm saying.
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I have been hoarding 1982 and earlier Memorial cents for a long time now. It is a long term play.
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Pennies as money is an anachronism.

Half the country already has a five gallon jug of mostly pennies and mostly memorial pennies so you could say they're already hoarding them.

Give it a few years and someone is going to notice that finding a true well made Gem 1984-D is next to impossible and then people will pay attention to them. Another 50 years after this and so many will have been destroyed through various means that almost any Memorial cent might be worth a little bit. Maybe ten or twenty will even buy a candy bar.
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Like jbuck, I "hoard" only copper memorials. Though I wouldn't really call what I'm doing hoarding - not sure $50 counts as a hoard.
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There are too many memorials still in existence.




I'm not sure if hoarders of memorial cents would see any measureable gains in their lifetimes since the mintage are so high. Sure copper cents are worth more than a cent but you have to realize that they are not pure copper (refining costs would eat up any gains) and the fact that it is illegal to melt them.
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I save all of the 1982 and prior copper memorials - partly for the copper content but also because of their age.

I also save any really nice BU zincolns I find from the 80's. I just came across a really nice 1985 the other day that I set aside.

I also just recently had some extra ebay bucks and bought a bunch of memorials including most of the 70's, 80's and 90's in mint cello along with a run of 00-08 and quite a few individual coins from the 60's and did a major upgrade of my set (my 7100 memorial pictures are the old coins).

I think now is a great time to grab up higher grade memorials while you can still get them for a decent price or even find them in the wild.
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I don't collect them because I think that they will be around for a while more. Also, seems like more trouble than its worth to me. :/
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I save only ch to gem bu memorials. with these I am fussy. if they have one hit or scratch on them, I toss it. doesn't matter what date or mint. I card and box them and toss in some silica gel packs in the box.
Also have bu roll sets of all memorials except 1970-s sm-dt.
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Though I wouldn't really call what I'm doing hoarding - not sure $50 counts as a hoard.
Yeah, my alleged hoard hovers around the same value. It is a matter of personal opinion I supposed.


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... I think that they will be around for a while more.
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Also have bu roll sets of all memorials except 1970-s sm-dt.


And that's a VERY tough one. Mine is still not complete after many years. I did get lucky a couple of years ago and made a trade with a forum member for a large lot of them... but it cost me a good bit in trade for BU Morgans. Have to admit, as much as I love Lincolns, it was a little odd and painful to trade MS silver dollars for mere "pennies". Any non-collector would have probably slapped me. What the heck are you doing? "You sold all those silver dollars for like 20 cents?" LOLOLOLOL
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Here's some shots of my Memorial roll set. I sort them with the worst examples in the top of the tube. That way, when I find a new prospect, I can compare easily to what I have, then decide which one to toss. Doing this for years has made all of my rolls gem quality.

These are old pictures, only part of my set, you can see the lower years are not all there and completed....it's much different today. I got to the point where for certain years, I have given up trying to find better coins. I started putting dots on top of those tubes so while I am searching I can skip those years - unless an extreme eye-popper came up in the 68-69 range (very, very rare).

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BadThad's points are well taken (and from others contributing here). Finding high grade LMCs takes time, patience, and a keen eye. Quite a few AU coins, but well struck, early die state, BU coins...it's quite the challenge.

PS - And the mint packaged cents are a real disappointment.
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