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 Posted 09/26/2015  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any good news on progress and repairs?
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 Posted 09/27/2015  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RJP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the old time coin cabinet.
Just clean it up and use it.
Sounds like you have more then enough security around it.
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 Posted 09/28/2015  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing done yet.

I need a new lock for it so am trying to source one first. I can buy a new one but they are pricy so just waiting to pick up one on ebay for a lot less.

All I've done is put a coin in it :)

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And here is the actual coin

Denier Comtes d'Angoulême et de la marche (1199-XIIIe)

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 Posted 09/30/2015  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I need a new lock for it so am trying to source one first.


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...first you have to break into a locked safe room with a reinforced door - after bypassing the burglar alarm and the dog with very sharp teeth. And manage to hide from the security cameras as well.


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 Posted 09/30/2015  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The small brass lock is the method which keeps the two doors closed. It has nothing to do with security.
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Yeah its like an old Pie Safe where they had to be locked so your pies and other baked goods would be out of the way, not realy to protect them so they had a lock on it to connect one door to the other since they didn't just swing open.

This was all before those sets of magnets were placed inside like modern bathroom cabinets with one magnet on the door and one inside somewhere so it was just strong enough to keep the door swinging open with a bit of wind current in the house or a little settling that would leave the door unbalanced or just an off-center hinge, since the doors dont actually go inside anything recessed like a door to a room. Instead the doors are just lids if you were to place the cabinet on its back.

for my pie safe I just use a rubber band to keep the doors closed but it doesn't hold nearly that many coins or coins of that value it just has my Whitman folders laying on the shelves and isn't anywhere near a walkway for a door to swing open and the glass to shatter on someone or a solid plank of wood to trip them.

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 Posted 10/01/2015  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I followed. Just thought it was funny that both of those comments were in the same thread.
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It does seem a bit funny from the outside, but with antique furniture it may be worth more than its contents and thee is quite a lot of antique furniture heavily guarded. Palace of Versailles, Louvre, etc.

Its like when I first read the "Guide Book" thread and read "A Guide Book to Red Books" existed. From the inside looking out it seems natural but since I have been on both sides recently, I can now laugh with you and understand what you meant.

Which makes you wonder if someone has an antique safe somewhere in a safe to protect the safe?
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 Posted 10/01/2015  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Bacchus. Used to be you could get people to renew table tops and the like if you looked for French Polishers. I suspect they could do a good job if you didn't mind paying.

My cabinet is an old Peter Nichols' (usually referred to by auction houses as 'St Leonards') and I recently had his successors make a drawer for mine to hold tickets and envelopes that don't fit in the recesses. I know they no longer use the lacquer/ varnishes Peter did or I'd suggest them.

As an aside, I see your coin is on the ticket. Is that how you usually store them? Just I only do that for spares. My main coins sit on the felts:

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 Posted 10/01/2015  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tom,

I think there is something aesthetically pleasing about seeing a big cabinet drawerful of coins - something you just don't get with other storage methods. Your picture, for example explains exactly why. I know the Peter Nichols cabinets to be "top drawer" quality. This one doesn't have a name but it's very well made - just needs some TLC.

I only use a ticket - I've always known them as roundels - for coins that I might think I will forget what exactly they are - this is one of those terrible first world problems!!

I've a small number of French Medieval deniers that I intend to store here - they will need tickets / roundels and so do my hammered Indian rupees - they are stored in another cabinet.

The roundels I use are specially bought and are made from soft acid free paper - it's about £3 for a hundred or so from memory.

I'll probably store my Roman denarii here too. Like the vast majority of denarii they've been cleaned at some stage and will absolutely not suffer at all from this type of storage - in fact they will arguably improve if I get some of that nice cabinet toning going on. There's a hundred or so of them.

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 Posted 10/01/2015  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a couple of poor pictures to explain

A couple of trays of rupees - with roundels / tickets - so I remember.

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And just a tray of crown sized coins - pretty random to be honest


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I just don't collect coins I'd be afraid to handle. That's the whole point for me - to actually hold something with a bit of history. If I owned a truly uncirculated coin (and I do have a few) they wouldn't go here - they are in airtites - but they really are very few as there's no real history to them so just don't interest me at all. Owning something to have the extra worry about uneven tarnishing or some minuscule bit of metal that you can only see under a microscope being rubbed off just doesn't do it for me either. Most of my coins have had that done already - with some go old honest use.

I suspect you're on kinda the same page.
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 Posted 10/01/2015  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice!

And yes. I don't think any of my coins are likely to suffer from an occasional bit of inspection and handling either. As for the dreaded tarnishing that some collectors seem to fear, well most of my brighter coins I'd be quite happy if they developed a bit of toning and 'calmed down' a little!

A fair few of my more recent coins come with roundels from earlier collectors and I enjoy knowing they have a bit of provenance. Consequently I write tickets for all of my coins in the hope the information might be of interest to their future owners.

But then you and I do differ in scale. My main collection [currently] consists of a grand total of ...

um, 69 coins!

Bit easier to write out tickets when you buy less than 10 coins a year.



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Lovely photos! It is certainly an interesting way to store coins, especially those you want to hold from time to time. I do like it.
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I'm really enjoying this thread. It makes me want to get out into my woodshop and build something like this. Well, when it gets under 95°F here.
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