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Ok, this one is a normal date so look here and go down the list to compare markers and features. Once you find it you'll feel a sense on accomplishment  just go down the normal date list... http://www.vamworld.com/1886-P+Obverses |
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Okay, will look this evening. That's one of the things I need to learn, which is the process of elimination. Which markers to look for first and then move down the list. Thanks for the help!
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Okay, so I started looking while at work, lol. I don't have the coin in hand, so this is tougher for me since I don't have alot of experience with looking at these markers. But, I see what looks like a clash under the chin at the neck line on the obverse. It appears that I've go a closed 6 and possibly a double ear (outside rt). The closest match that I see is, 1886-P VAM-1A1 Line in 6,Clashed Obverse In & st. But I don't have a line inside of the 6? Any additional pointing is greatly appreciated. Thanks again!
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I see the wing clash at the neck. It's pretty common on morgans. I see possible doubling on the ear but I can't tell for sure from these pics and there a a few doubled ears that have minute difference. If you see a bar in the lower upper loop of the 6 then you have narrowed it down. On the vw listings they tell you what die markers are specific to a vams obverse and reverse. But first you need to start with date and mm position. The date is measured by how many denticles the bottom left crossbar of the 1 is from the denticle below the neck point. The mm position (if not a P) is measured by mentally drawing 2 lines down from the sides of the knot in the middle of the bow and how the mm relates to those imaginary lines and how high or low it is from the bow knot. Here is the VAM world tutorual. It can be a bit overwhelming to a beginner but your coin knowledge should help. Just take it all in and practice, practice, practice! http://www.vamworld.com/Attribution+101 |
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Thanks. So I looked at it under glass last night. Obverse: I have a clash at the neck. I see no sign of a clash at the lower hair section (above the date). I have a closed 6. I do not have a line inside of the 6. I do not see doubling at the ear. Reverse: I have a clash at the left wing tip directly below the 'n' in the IN GOD WE TRUST. I have a (1) clash mark in the field out from the right wing. I can't pin it. If you see anything that could lend some additional direction, then please let me know. Thanks again for the help Cascade. EDIT: The reverse markers for VAM-25 are dead on. I can't see a doubled 6 under my glass though. There appears to be some lines visible inside of the LIBERTY as shown as an obverse marker. Mine are alittle more faint though. I think this is the one, but it makes me feel uneasy since I can't see the doubled 6. Your thoughts? http://www.vamworld.com/1886-P+VAM-25Edited by razorblaydejr
09/16/2015 10:06 am
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Post very clear pictures of the 6, liberty & the ear and I'll try to confirm 25. The listing ID a bit vauge but I take it that the reason why is that a doubled 6 on an 86p is unique to 25. As to not seeing the doubling on the 6 (of it is 25) look at the bottom of the page and click the link. They are saying that it is extreemly hard to see on brilliant specimens as it was only noticed because the discovery coin was toned. Try to get very good zoom pics of the areas I requested and we'll go from there. I'm not as good as d700 and some others, especially doing it from pics, so bear with me  |
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Those are not good enough to VAM from. They must be crystal clear. That said, I think I see a doubled ear on the left inside at the "eardrum" thing (don't know the proper anatomical name for that part of the ear) unless it's glare Edited by Cascade
09/16/2015 2:11 pm
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This is as clear as I can get with my phone scope. I can't get a good shot of the date at all for some reason. The edge of the holder keeps it out of focus.   |
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I'm ordering a usb scope now, lol. I have tons of experience with Snow varieties... but this is on another level!
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09/16/2015 3:00 pm
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