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1944-S War Nickel On the reverse a huge die crack appears to go the full length of coin top to bottom but varied strength. updated picture of die crack  Die crack on the reverse Nice die crack through the mint mark could be s over s west as well hard to tell  more of it further down  DDODie crack on Jefferson's head  pivot on In  notches trust  pivot trust  Trust - st  Star  Date 1944  Edited by OcalaFlorida
09/20/2015 5:12 pm
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Edited by BlueSolo
09/19/2015 11:03 pm
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Nice!! this coin was the reason I bought the set was for the $ die crack I was like wow cool. I paid $60 for the full BU War Nickels set last week tonight I decided to look at the set for errors and found 4 varieties so far of the 11 my head is spinning.. |
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Yes very nice. I don't see any metal displacement, but it does appear to go through the rims. You got a good deal. I like the 43 P even better. Congrats.
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09/19/2015 11:23 pm
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CoinMasters: It's a die crack, not Retained Cud. It is a very long crack though. OcalaFlorida: That's awesome, this coin alone is worth near double what you paid for the set! |
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Blue, I have every confidence in your expertise. I thought if it went through the rims that was proof it was broken, and just hadn't yet fell out. Why is it just a crack?
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Hmmm, you know what CoinMasters.. I had a different memory of this coin. When I was in the coin shop I thought I remembered a long crack but not one that continued to the other side (Earlier die state?). OcalaFlorida did not include pictures of the whole reverse. I did some digging and found this: https://coins.www.collectors-societ...px?sc=128985It appears there are more than one of this variety, they are always referred to as die crack. There are not many good pictures of the coin or the rim that I can find on the internet. Maybe OcalaFlorida can try taking some better pictures of the crack on both sides near the rim, it's close to the holder though. But, next time I go to the coin shop I will ask to see this one again and inspect the rims and get back to you. On another note, if it is a rim to rim, continuous crack. Would it be a Retained Cud or a die split? A crack that is dividing the die in half, would this mean the base is still attached? A Retained Cud, from my understanding, would be a chunk of the die that has fully detached from the die and is now it's own entity but is still held in place by the collar. More about this here: http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-co...better.html#EDIT: Cuds-on-coins calls this a bisecting rim to rim crack for the 1942S, nothing listed for 1944S. We would need to see more of the crack on the Monticello and below http://cuds-on-coins.com/rim-to-rim...u-s-coins-2/Edited by BlueSolo
09/20/2015 01:23 am
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If it stops at the rim it's a retained pre-cud, as long as it has design. It's my understanding if it enters the rim, it is a Cud. I don't think it matters even if it divides the die in half. If it enters the rim it is considered broken. When broken, it usually has metal displacement, either horizontally or vertically, but not necessarily. (jmo). Now I will read your links, maybe they will shed some light.Actually I don't have time to read them right now. I do believe there is a difference of opinion among the experts. Koinpro told me about the pre-cud if it doesn't show in the rim. It sounds logical to me that is the only way to know if it broke all the way through. I gotta go now, talk to you later my friend. Edited by CoinMasters
09/20/2015 01:45 am
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I will get better pics the top is strong but the bottom is very weak thin line also the placement is different once it comes out the bottom half mine runs through t in Monticello and t n states while the others are on the right side running though cents
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I would have guessed a die scratch because it's so linear.
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That is what I thought of first "$" ...cool die crack!
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There are similar cracks on the 1942-S and more than one 1944-S though. Shows a weakness in design?
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