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One more post to see if anybody is reading. Making it Harder for the Bad Guys: The Case for Eliminating High Denomination Notes http://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/...ns/awp/awp52The Harvard paper by Peter Sands calling for government to eliminate high denomination notes to impede the operations of various "bad guys" around the world is hardly an earth shaking concept. Our proposal is to eliminate high denomination, high value currency notes, such as the €500 note, the $100 bill, the CHF1,000 note and the £50 note. Such notes are the preferred payment mechanism of those pursuing illicit activities, given the anonymity and lack of transaction record they offer, and the relative ease with which they can be transported and moved. - Abstract of Sands paper But perhaps a little unusual was the inclusion of the £50=600SEK banknote which has been issued now for 33 years by UK and on their third design. The first series over 15.5 years from 03/20/81-09/20/96. The BOE never circulated more than 60 million banknotes. The second series over 16.2 years from 04/20/94 -04/30/14 was increased substantially after 911 bombings, and again once after world financial meltdown. The BOE never circulated more than 200 million banknotes The third series over last 4.3 years since 11/02/11. BOE was circulating 235.8 million notes as of 28 Feb 2015. We know that at least 440 million of the third series were produced. Some will eventually be replacements, but as of now almost all notes are relatively new. But there is no way to know how many the Central Bank of England will use to increase circulation. Questions for discussion (1) What do you think it will be by 29 Feb 2016? Up, down, about same, or up by a large amount (more than 260 million)? (2) Why did Bank of England exclude the £50 from the list of banknotes being converted to polymer? Is it just because they are so new, or do you think they will phase out the denomination? (3) The £50 is not extremely valuable. Do you object to it being included in the report as a note that should be eliminated? (4) Why the massive increase in £50 banknotes in the last decade, while at the same time period over 90% of the 1000SEK banknotes were destroyed? Sweden and the UK are in similar positions as EU nations outside of the Euro Zone. Banknotes in circulation 2001 48.4 million 1000-kr, 104.0 million £50 2005 45.3 million 1000-kr, 130.2 million £50 current 3.9 million 1000-kr, 235.8 million £50 The £50 circulation number is a year old, newer numbers not released. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Edited by PacoMartin 02/25/2016 12:44 am
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I know that the largest Russian banknote (5000 rubles) is worth only slightly less than £50 (and not much less than $100), and was actually worth a bit more than either before the exchange rates went sharply up at the end of 2014. To the best of my knowledge, however, nobody is seriously proposing to eliminate it (though it helps that the next largest denomination is not about half as much, as in the UK and US, but only a fifth of the value). Indeed, there are proposals to introduce a higher valued banknote (i.e. 10000 rubles).
IMHO it's actually more inconvenient when the highest valued note is worth little; we pretty much had to travel with wads of cash when in Israel (NIS 200 ~= $25), or, if to a lesser extent (due to lower prices), in Belarus (200000 Belarusian rubles ~= $15).
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5000 RUB = 92 SGD (Singapore Dollar) 5000 RUB = 556 SEK (Swedish Crown)
A lot of professors talk about eliminating high value notes, and going cashless is a popular discussion item even among central bankers. But the reality is most countries are trying to greatly reduce cash transactions, but almost no government (except Sweden) is reducing mildly high denominations.
Super high denominations are no longer being produced. The US $500, $1000, $5000,and $10000 banknote, the Canadian $1000, the Swedish 10,000SEK, the Singapore 10,000SGD, the Latvian 500 LVL (worth 711 Euros) have either gone out of production, or are now invalid currency depending on laws of the country.
But there are millions of 1000SGD banknotes, and while there are only 4 million 1000SEK banknotes in circulation, there are 92 million 500SEK banknotes still in circulation (down from 120 million).
The reason Sweden is interesting is that they are really greatly reducing their actual cash. Norway and Denmark are simply trying to greatly reduce cash transactions.
But we are facing a Brave New World possibly in the next two years of not only zero interest rate bank accounts, but accounts with transaction fees as well. Charges for letting account drop below a minimum, fees for paying debts, etc.
Conventional economic wisdom says people will convert their money into cash and keep it in home lockboxes. But what if there is no significant amount of cash in circulation?
It is difficult to imagine a cash intensive society like Russia or Japan keeping such a small amount of cash in banks as Sweden. But it may be the future if zero or negative interest rates become common.
One way to look at "Banknotes and coin held by banks" compared to GDP of nation 8.7 days Russia of GDP 7.1 days Japan of GDP 4.5 days Switzerland of GDP 55 hours Euro Area of GDP 45 hours USA of GDP 33 hours United Kingdom of GDP 28 hours Canada of GDP 8 hours Sweden of GDP
============================== More conventional metrics According to BIS, at the end of 2014 (conversions to $ Dec 31, 2014 rate)
Swedish Crowns per capita 370 Banknotes and coin held by banks 8,209 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks $48 & $1061
Russian Rubles per capita 11,729 Banknotes and coin held by banks 49,307 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks $208 & $876
Japanese Yen per capita 75,332 Banknotes and coin held by banks 693,756 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks $630 & $5800
Euro Area Euros per capita 186 Banknotes and coins held by MFIs 2,889 Banknotes and coins in circulation outside MFIs $226 & $3,508
United Kingdom Pounds per capita 106 Banknotes and coin held by banks 1,015 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks $165 & $1,581
Canadian Dollars per capita 178 Banknotes and coin held by banks 1,956 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks $153 & $1,686 US Dollars per capita $279 Banknotes and coin held by banks $3,939 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks
Edited by PacoMartin 02/25/2016 02:07 am
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@Paco Martin: I am still reading  By the way, if you are interested I could email you a recent newspaper article about cash in Sweden by a german journalist who's living there. Just drop me a note. Unfortunately, I can't post the article here (and besides it's in German. So I had to translate it). Of course, the Harvard prof is wrong. Eliminating the banknotes mentioned WILL NOT reduce crime/illicit activities. Even the head of the Bundesbank acknowledged that fact just recently. Academia, certain ecomomists and certain central bankers just want to make it easier to introduce negative interest (orr make them even more negative). Governments also like the idea because it makes it easier to control their people. No cash means no freedom and loss of privacy. Quote: But what if there is no significant amount of cash in circulation? Either people will find another way to protect their money/wealth and/or civil unrest will happen.
Edited by redlock 02/25/2016 04:36 am
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For security reasons new members do not have access to the email system. You will have to email me your address, so that I can send you mine.
Peter Sands is British and was the Group CEO of Standard Chartered plc, a position he has held from November 2006 to June 2015. He went to Harvard, and he wrote in a Harvard journal, but he's not a professor.
The inclusion of the £50 banknote on the list of "dangerous" denominations is almost too much. Even after the huge increase, the Brits are still circulating about 4 £50 notes per capita. Sweden is still circulating about 9 500SEK notes per capita, and they are the most hostile nation to cash in the world (£50 is about 600SEK).
I am really curious if there is backlash at some point in Sweden. I looked at a website on ATM's and I counted roughly 65 ATMS in Sweden that dispense Euros. I wonder if they will be very popular in the event of a real estate crash.
I have tried blogging about this on a Swedish website, and mostly I got very simplistic answers. Cash is dirty and messy and for old people. Swedes all trust banks and nobody hoards money in Sweden. Well you may trust them not to go bankrupt, but it is insane to trust that they will never yield negative interest rates.
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---the inclusion of the £50 to the list of ''dangerous banknotes'' is too much and just utterly ridiculous
---I agree, the Swedes trust their banking system too much. And their ''aversion'' to cash will probably backfire on them in one way or another eventually.
---I can't send you my email address via the CCF's contact information because when I try via your Profile I get this: ''This Member does not wish to receive e-mail.'' You might have to adjust your settings (can change it later again). I'm sorry, but I just can't post the newspaper article here.
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I can confirm that once the banks' electronic payment services go offline, things can get chaotic quickly when maybe 80% of customers can't pay. In one of those occations I witnessed the shop accepting leftover Euros from a customer.
There has been some news headlines stating that "Swedish banknotes are the second most germ-filled in Europe, after Denmark" in the past, but the only notes I experience to be excessively dirty are the older 20 SEK notes.
I definitely think most Swedes are too confident in and dependent on their banks. I think the Riksbank only follows commercial demand on the production of banknotes. The only reason the amount of banknotes is steadily decreasing is because of the "convenience" that card payments deliver. Banks promote the use of cards since they get a tiny percentage of every transaction, so they offer their card services and try to cut down on cash transactions as much as they are able to. Their gain, someone insignificant's loss.
I too just find it ridiculous how large-denomination banknotes are 'a danger to society'. Since most are harder to come by (1000 SEK, €100-€500, £50), they are as of a result harder to get in quantity by illegitimate business. Most counterfeited banknotes are middle-denomination banknotes such as $20, 100 SEK and €20.
I have seent he decline of Euro-dispensing ATMs here in Stockholm. We used to have an ATM that dispensed €20:s in the small area I live but today very few remain. I think the Euro craze we had for a while ago has worn off.
Here, most sceptics of the higher banknote denominations wrongly say that they are only used by criminals and are mostly counterfeit. I guess this is the official perception of high-denominations in most western societies.
Edited by X2an 02/25/2016 3:05 pm
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Let me layout a hypothetical scenario for X2an.
The Riksbank is introducing new 200-kr banknotes at the rate of about 1.5 million a month, so right now there are not a lot of them in circulation. In contrast the new 20-kr banknotes are being introduced at 7 million a month. It makes sense since the bank has only 9 months before the old 20-kr banknotes are declared invalid, and there must be enough new ones so as not to impact routine business,
But after June 2016 when the old 20-kr are invalid, the Riksbank increases the rate of new 200-kr banknotes being added to circulation. By this fall there enough 200-kr notes that banks only fill the ATMs so that they stop dispensing the old 500-kr banknotes. After all new 500-kr ones will be issued in January 2017. So after June 2016 with many of the ATMs converted, new 200-kr banknotes are added at the rate of 5 million a month.
But in January 2017, only a handful of the ATM's dispense the new 500-kr banknote. Initially they say that the new 500-kr banknotes are being introduced at 2 million a month. If people object that they are not being produced fast enough, the Riksbank says they have to introduce the new 100-kr banknote at 10-12 million a month because they only have 6 months to replace the old supply before they become invalid.
But by June 2017 when the 100-kr and 500-kr banknotes become invalid, the country has learned to live with a small fraction of the 500-kr banknotes that used to be in circulation. At peak there were 120 million 500-kr banknotes, and currently there are 92 million 500-kr banknotes in circulation. So by "small fraction" I mean something like 30 million, but I think there is a possibility of a token number of 500-kr banknotes like 10 million
Cash in banks can be measured by hours of GDP for a country, and Cash outside of bank by days of GDP for the same country. That makes it easy to compare different countries and change over time. Comparing Canada, U.K. and Sweden for the five year period from 2010 to 2014 (with Euro zone shown for contrast) we get the following statistics:
Hours of GDP (cash in bank) 2010- 2011- 2012- 2013- 2014 31.3- 31.7- 33.4- 30.6- 27.8 Canada 28.3- 30.9- 28.9- 23.2- 32.9 United Kingdom 21.7- 19.2- 17.6- 7.8- 8.0 Sweden 50.6- 50.2- 54.6- 53.9- 54.6 Euro-Zone
Days of GDP (cash circulating outside of banks) 2010- 2011- 2012- 2013- 2014 12.3- 12.1- 12.3- 12.5- 12.7 Canada 12.8- 12.9- 12.2- 11.8- 13.2 United Kingdom 9.9- 9.1- 8.8- 7.9- 7.4 Sweden 47.5- 50.7- 47.5- 50.5- 52.9 Euro-Zone
So in 2010 Sweden, Canada and UK's cash in circulation was in the same ballpark. Banks carried roughly a day of GDP in cash, and 10-13 days of GDP were in cash outside of banks.
Over the 5 year period, UK has had fluctuations, but overall they have made a small increase in their cash supply primarily by introducing a new £50 banknote and increasing circulation by over 25%. Canada has been nearly constant increasing cash at about the same rate as GDP.
Sweden has radically reduced the supply of cash in banks to only 8 hours, and the supply of cash outside of banks by about 25%. Primarily the cash supply was reduced by circulating the new 1000-kr banknotes with an anti counterfeiting strip, and then producing a small fraction of banknotes with the strip.
Using the scenario at the beginning of the post, what if Sweden gets the cash in banks down to about 4 hours, and the supply outside of banks to 4 days.
The people's "demand" is irrelevant in Sweden. If people will want new 500-kr banknotes they can't get them because they won't be in the ATMs.
Now obviously nobody in Sweden is going to riot in the streets (like they would in America). For everyone who writes an angry blog post, three more people write a response that cash is no longer necessary, and they are perfectly happy with the 200-kr banknote for their children and old people. The small banknotes and new coins are sufficient for small purchase.
What would you do? I suspect most people would do nothing.
Edited by PacoMartin 02/26/2016 5:30 pm
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Well, when I speak about commercial demand I mean nothing else but corporate demand. The people always come in second in these situations, and I find that horrifying. There has been discussion about a law that forces bank offices to have cash ready but that discussion seems to have stopped lately. I hope something will be done about it. Quite honestly, I don't think blog posters are the best source of information regarding people's opinion about cash. Most blogger are "up-to-date" with everything technology, including the cash-free society. There are exceptions, of course. There was an opinion voiced in Stockholm's largest newspaper about the decline of cash acceptance. Here it is, however it is in Swedish, so you might want to translate it. The topic was a hot subject among readers and many actually supported the usage of cash, marking on some important arguments. I can imagine since there's more argumentation over there the general tone is more positive. Most bloggers just spew out what's on their minds and don't think from other people's perspective. As for your scenario you've built up, I'd definitely mark on how notable the decrease is but figuring how many other would too, I'd just be one in the crowd. I take the little man stance - what can tiny me do about it? I wouldn't be surprised if banks simply had less cash at hand, the way we're going I think it's a certainty soon. I do not however, think that the 500 SEK note will unnotably be disused considering how important it is today. If we're seeing people who actually hoard physical money for whatever reason, negative interest rates or whatnot, they have bundles of 500:s hidden under their madrasses or in safes since the 500 SEK note is what's avalible in quantity. People use these for many cash purchases, it would be almost a meltdown if these notes disappeared. As for the general low cash usage and negative opinions, I kind of wish for a banking crisis or something to make people think more about security rather than convenience, unlike now. The digital safety is just not sustainable.
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http://cb.is/payments/notes-and-coi...and-history/Sweden is just now coming under 2% of GDP for total value of banknotes and coin. Iceland did that by 1975 (and their central bank was only formed in 1961. But Iceland's government did not need to reduce currency to achieve 1%. They had basically hyperinflation (perhaps not as bad as Mexico, but on that scale). By the early 1980's they had to issue a new currency with two zeros dropped from old currency. But they no longer have 1% as the massive bank failures in 2008 made people go back to cash in record numbers. Maybe I must have been talking to some bad forum members. I was told very confidently by a Swede that no Swede hoards money. I figure if you put 10 million people together, then you have hoarders. It may be that Sweden has a much lower percentage than most countries. My scenario of the government releasing new 500-kr banknotes at 1.5-2.0 million a month for six months (Jan-Jun 2017) means that most people will be unable to bring their hoard in and exchange them for new banknotes, and redeposit them in their home safes. I don't know if the government will try to use the 200-kr to minimize the use of the 500-kr. But it sure is convenient that the 200-kr banknote was introduced 15 months before they introduced the new 500-kr banknote. As I said earlier they reduced the 500-kr notes by 22% since 2009, but they also reduced the 100-kr notes by 25%. I actually remember in fall of 1992 when Riksbank raised marginal lending rate to 500 percent. My brother was friends with a bunch of Swedish girls who were living in our town. The Crown lost about 40% of it's value against the dollar in a few months. Black Wednesday hit Britain . I remember one of the girls asking me why they were doing this to her, as she was running out of money and might have to return to Sweden early. I said that Germany was trying to borrow all the money in the world to reunify without having to raise taxes, and George Soros was known as "The Man who Broke the Bank of England". Soros briefly set his sights on Sweden. She was very upset as she felt that those things had nothing to do with Sweden, Looking at larger issues, the government seems to be spending mightily to buy bonds to keep the krona exchange rate low. The negative interest rates won't do much good if the currency speculators drive up the value of the krona. Quote: 27 October 2015 Ref 2015-00705 Extended purchases of government bonds Decision by the Executive Board
The Riksbank should, in addition to adjusting the repo rate path, as a complementary monetary policy measure expand the purchases of nominal government bonds by purchasing further nominal Swedish government bonds
The total purchases made by the Riksbank are then expected to amount to SEK 200 billion at the end of the first six months of 2016. This corresponds to just over 30 per cent of the outstanding stock of nominal government bonds denominated in SEK on the Swedish market.
There is still a high level of preparedness to quickly make monetary policy even more expansionary if inflation prospects deteriorate, even between the ordinary monetary policy meetings. The repo rate can be cut further, which is reflected in the repo rate path, and the Riksbank can purchase more securities. The Riksbank also stands ready to intervene on the foreign exchange market if the upturn in inflation were to be threatened by, for example, a problematic development in the markets.
That is an awful lot of money spent on bonds to prevent the krona from getting stronger against the Euro (which would occur naturally from negative interest rates). Plus there is the promise to spend more. In addition the Euro-zone has it's own QE programs, which weakens the Euro relative to the SEK exchange rate. In comparison, the current circulation figures of currency are a lot less than 200 billion SEK: 3.925 SEK billion in 1000-kr banknote (1.228 SEK billion in new banknotes) 46.121 SEK billion in 500-kr banknote 16.653 SEK billion in coins and valid banknotes of all other denominations including 20,50,100,and 200-kr. So hypothetically if the current bond purchases reduces the Swedish crown closer to 10:1 with Euro, could the Riksbank simply peg the Crown to 10:1 temporarily. In 2017 the Riksbank would and only issue a token number of 500-kr banknotes, say about 10 SEK billion (to match the token 2 SEK billion in 1000-kr banknotes). The 50 Euro banknotes will naturally begin circulating in Sweden to fill the demand, if at least for private transactions. The Riksbank will be relieved of the duty to keep buying bonds to try and control the exchange rate. Could they do such a thing, and if they do could they undo it easily?
Edited by PacoMartin 02/27/2016 6:06 pm
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I checked the Danmarks Nationalbank website to see when they issued the upgraded 1000-Dkr banknote. Denmark issued there upgraded note on Nov 25, 2004. Sweden issued the updated 1000-kr banknote in March 2006 with the foil strip with hologram that alternatively shows the denomination and a ship when you tilt the banknote.
So it is interesting to see that Denmark used the new note to greatly increase circulation of the 1000 Danish Crown banknote, from 25 million at the end of 2004 to 34 million by the end of 2014.
Sweden did just the opposite with the upgraded note. Circulation was 45.6 million at the end of 2004 and was down to 6.2 million by the end of 2014.
Sweden simply printed very few new notes, and as of 31 Dec 2013, they declared the old banknotes invalid.
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Quote: SEK 4.3 billion invalid in 4 months' time Date 29/02/2016 After 30 June this year, it will no longer be possible to pay using the old 20-, 50- and 1,000-krona banknotes. In total, this means 74 million banknotes to a value of around SEK 4.3 billion will become invalid. If you put the banknotes end to end, they cover a distance of 9,000 km, the same length as 100 Vasalopp ski races and almost once around the moon.-Riksbank Press Release (Vasalopp?)
Notes are not being turned in very fast. Last month the soon to be invalid banknotes were 77.3 million banknotes to a value of around SEK 4.57 billion.
The press release used statistics from the middle of the month.
The actual stats for the end of the previous months the value of the soon to be invalid banknotes was: SEK 4.1 billion (71.6 million banknotes) SEK 4.6 billion (77.3 million banknotes) SEK 5.2 billion (84.4 million banknotes) SEK 5.9 billion (92.5 million banknotes) SEK 6.6 billion (100.8 million banknotes)
So I would say that the government will get a tiny windfall come 30 June from tens of millions of banknotes that are never turned in.
Million banknotes as of 29 Feb 2016 that will become invalid 58.0: 20-kr (1.159 SEK billion)+ 11.3: 50-kr (0.565 SEK billion)+ 2.3: 1000-kr (2.337 SEK billion) === 71.6 million banknotes that will be invalid on 1 July 2016
Edited by PacoMartin 03/03/2016 09:03 am
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Quick explanation of "Vasalopp": As mentioned, it's a ski race that allegedly the Swedish "liberator" Gustav Vasa originally made while fleeing from Danish soldiers in the 1500:s. On skis he went through the Swedish northwestern region of Dalarna, starting in mountainous Sälen heading southeast until he reached the city of Mora. Since the start in 1922 this route has become a national sports event for long-distance skiing. The whole route is approx. 90 kilometers.
I've seen a "warning article" in my daily newspaper encouraging people to turn in their old notes. It's not going quickly, agreed. As late as today (technically yesterday for me, past midnight) I got an old 20 kr note in change, and I saw several being circulated while in different checkout lines. I'm doing my part as I'm trying to spend them as soon as I get them. Not only are they more folded, worn and torn, but the old design really feels outdated and unexciting when I look at them. On the contrary, the new 50 still feels brand new to me despite having got the most badly treated (honestly circulated) one the other day (I still have it). I'm seeing very few old 50:s but they are still around. Very few (close to none) new 200:s are around, no trace from the 1000:s.
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I am glad that I found this thread. I travel to Sweden occasionally for business, since 2010, and became fond of Scandinavian currency. I am collecting, mostly from change, and purchasing from ebay, the older issues, up since late 19th Century. Aside from pre-1919 Norwegian silver coins, I find Scandinavian numismatic items, specially Swedish coins, quite affordable to collect, given low montages on certain years. Its always exciting to find a1960's or 1970's coin in change for me, given that I live in country which frequently changes coins and paper money in circulation (oldest we have in Turkey now is from 2009, and,before that it was 2005, and before it was 1999) This may give you a point. I feel sorry that after this year, there will be nee, plated coins in Sweden. They tarnish absolutely horrible and feel very cheap on hand (like 1-2-5 Eurocents) they even may tone ugly inside hard plastic round capsules. Ugh. Contrary to the thread owner, I really am fond of old design 20kr and 50kr Swedish banknotes. I was raised in the 70's and 80's and back then Nils and the Flying Goose was quite popular in Turkey. I remember reading it when I was about 7-8 years old. It was a very pleasant surprise for me to see that on Swedish 20kr note when I first went there in 2010. I believe the unusual size and artistic design of the old 50kr is very pretty too. It is in fact my most favorite Scandinavian banknote. After that comes the Norwegian 500kroner and Swedish old 20kr, equally pretty for me. I remember finding a 50kr banknote without the security foil in Gothenburg back in 2015, an old, worn note that was withdrawn sometime ago. I kept that along with a 2008 50kr. Last time I was in Sweden, it was December 2015. I found three consecutive new 20kr, and a circulated 200kr. I spent the 200kr, but kept the 20's. One of them is in my folder now, the rest are sitting in an envelope. I didn't like the new 50kr but I am hoping to find an uncirculated one next time I will be there in May. I will keep it for sure. I can say I also enjoy the large 5 kronor coin a lot, to th point that I built a date run of them, all from circulation, barring a few low mintage dates (1989, and ones between 1995-1999). I sometimes ask like 100-200 kronor worth of 5kr coins from cahsiers, to check for dates. I have never been refused, and I have to say Swedes are so helpful for weird requests like that.:-) Also, there is only once in my lifetime I found silver in circulation, and it was a silver 1kr 1957, from a shop in Malmö train station back in 2012-2013.
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Quote: X2an: I've seen a "warning article" in my daily newspaper encouraging people to turn in their old notes. It's not going quickly, agreed. As late as today (technically yesterday for me, past midnight) I got an old 20 kr note in change, and I saw several being circulated while in different checkout lines. I'm doing my part as I'm trying to spend them as soon as I get them. Not only are they more folded, worn and torn, but the old design really feels outdated and unexciting when I look at them. On the contrary, the new 50 still feels brand new to me despite having got the most badly treated (honestly circulated) one the other day (I still have it). I'm seeing very few old 50:s but they are still around. Very few (close to none) new 200:s are around, no trace from the 1000:s. At the completion of 5th month of a 9 month period before the old banknotes become invalid, I would have expected the proportions to all be well below 50%. Percentage of circulating banknotes old design 65.7% - 20-kr52.1% - 50-kr62.9% - 1000-krI'm expecting a small windfall for the government at the end of June as many of these notes won't be found. Now the following year it might be a major windfall if a lot of the 500-kr banknotes are not found. After five months the circulation figure of 8.2 million 200-kr banknotes is also surprisingly small. having eliminated 24.5 million 500-kr banknotes from circulation in the last 14 months, I expected to see at least as many 200-kr banknotes circulated to replace them.
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