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http://www.ekf.vsb.cz/export/sites/..._Skaunic.pdfIS CASH NEVER-ENDING? THE CASE OF SWEDEN 13th International Scientific Conference "Economic Policy in the European Union Member Countries" September 2-4, 2015, Karolinka, CZECH REPUBLIC This paper discusses the differences between Sweden and Czech Republic with regard to cash. Sweden and Czech Republic have some basic similarities. They have essentially the same population, and they are both part of the EU but with their own strong currencies. Both countries are highly developed, although Sweden is wealtheir than the Czech Republic. The Czech and Slovak Koruna were created at the same time in 8 February 1993 when Czechoslovakia ended. Slovakia converted to Euros on 1/1/2009. 1EUR=27.0408 CZK Czech Koruna (current rate) 1EUR=30.1260 SKK Slovak Koruna (fixed rate: replaced with Euro) 1000SEK = 2,858.79 CZK (current rate) The Czech Republic flirted with the idea of going cashless in 1993, as did other countries. But is currently circulating more than twice as much currency as Sweden including over 27 million high value 5000K#269; banknotes. Ilja Skaunic speculates Regarding the decline in the use of banknotes of denomination 1000 SEK - about the causes of this phenomenon can be only speculate based on information available. To the most probably causes is possible to include low participation rate of the gray economy into the economy of Sweden, low levels of corruption and good payment behavior.While that speculation is very upbeat about Swedish society, I would like to point out that the Swedish central bank also caused the destruction of the 1000SEK banknote by twice (2006 and 2015) replacing the banknote with a new one. While every country updates their banknotes, they normally produce more new ones than the old ones they are replacing. Sweden is pursuing the opposite strategy of only replacing a small percentage of the old banknotes. I think it is also true that Norway has a small gray economy, low levels of corruption and reliable payment behavior. But Norway didn't change the banknotes and replace them with smaller numbers of new notes. The year over year reduction in 1000-kr banknotes was considerably less. Circulation of 1000-kr banknotes in millions of notes Year : Nor : Swe 2005 : 24.6 : 45.3 2006 : 25.8 : 42.1 2007 : 26.2 : 38.6 2008 : 25.4 : 34.3 2009 : 24.4 : 31.4 2010 : 23.1 : 28.6 2011 : 21.7 : 25.1 2012 : 21.2 : 21.4 2013 : 19.8 : 9.7 2014 : 18.7 : 6.2 2015 : 17.9 : 4.2 Sweden's current supply as of end of January 1.228 million new 2.697 million old design (invalid as of June 2016)
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Quote: But Norway didn't change the banknotes and replace them with smaller numbers of new notes. Well, that will be happening between 2017 and 2019 when Norway will replace the current banknote series with a new one. 100 kr and 200 kr in 2017, 50 kr and 500 kr in 2018 and 1000 kr in 2019 -- at least that is the plan. As Norges Bank publishes how many banknotes are actually produced for them this will be highly interesting information about their stance on the 1000 kr note. While it is certainly very intriguing what's going on with the 1000 kr notes in Norway, Denmark and Sweden I don't think it's an active policy by the Riksbank to quietly get rid off the 1000 kr note. I think there simply isn't a high demand for it in Sweden. If there were a demand Riksbank would have been forced to issue the notes. Moreover, the demand for the 500 kr note would have increased if there was a demand which wasn't met. But that hasn't happened. Remember, the ECB was forced during and shortly after the bankng crisis of 2008/2009 to issue new 500 and 200 Euro notes because there was demand for it. Besides, consider that in the UK, well England, the highest denomination is the 50 Pound note and they seem to survive... As you have said, it would be very, very interesting to know how many new Swedish banknotes have actually been produced thus far.
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I just have a difficult time with that phrase "there is no demand" for a banknote. There is ALWAYS a demand for high value banknotes. When Canada was still producing the $1000 banknote, a mobster in Toronto would pay a bonus to bank employees who found a $1000 banknote.
In Sweden, the 1000SEK is really not extremely valuable (like the CAD$1000). I would think banknote collectors would want more than 1.3 million notes. Even among legal users of currency there are collectors, grandparents giving money gifts, hoarders, gamblers, etc. Demand does not naturally drop from 50 million to 1.3 million just because of SWISH. There is no demand, because there is no easy way to get banknotes in Sweden other than from ATMs.
I wrote to Riksbank and asked where there production numbers were published. They said the production numbers are not public information because "we don't wish to reveal how much we have in stock; something which would be easy to calculate if you knew how much we produce." While that is certainly a valid answer it could also apply to every Central Bank in the world.
When the USA Bureau of Engraving and Printing was going through that massive catastrophe with the production of the new color $100 banknote, they suspended the production reports for almost two years. When Iceland introduced the new 10,000ISK banknote in 2013, they announced they printed 40 ISK billion worth of these new notes. That was a huge amount as the whole banknote supply circulating at the time was under 43 ISK billion.
The Riksbank used one of two possibilities. They printed tens of millions of notes and they are hiding them away in case of a "run on the banks" like what happened in Iceland. The other possibility is that they only printed a few million notes, so in case of a run on the banks a return to cash is not an option. Either way, I could understand them not wanting their decision known.
But the massive reduction in 1000SEK is interesting because no other country is doing it. Not Norway, Denmark, Iceland, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Czech Republic or any other similar countries, and certainly not the major currencies.
But the 500SEK banknote in 2009 was circulating at 59.447SEK billion. Presently they have reduced that to 46.121SEK billion. If they significantly reduce that number to 10 billion range, and only replace a fraction of the value with 200SEK banknotes, then Sweden will officially IMHO be moving into previously uncharted territory.
As I said Norway stopped producing the 1000NOK banknote in 2005, but they have produced over 86 million 500NOK banknotes in the interim period. I don't know if Norway has the equivalent of SWISH, but they seem content to keep the cash supply stable (if in slightly smaller denominations).
But they may follow Sweden when they issue new banknotes.
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In economics, the demand for money is generally equated with cash or bank demand deposits. Generally, the nominal demand for money increases with the level of nominal output and decreases with the nominal interest rate.
A decade ago, negative interest rates were a theoretical curiosity that economists would discuss almost as a parlor game. On 11 February Sweden's central bank lowered its bank lending rate to a negative 0.5 percent from a negative 0.35 percent, and said it could cut further still.
Will banks pass along negative interest rates to consumers? Probably not overtly, but it may come out in the form of fees and surcharges.
The reduction in the 500SEK from a high of 120 million banknotes to the present 92.2 million pales in comparison to the over 90% reduction in the 1000SEK banknotes. But consider the fact that no new updated 500SEK banknote has been introduced in decades. It looks like the Riksbank is trying to get rid of as many as possible before introducing the new banknotes, and then they will produce only a small fraction of the replacement notes.
Obviously if you are going to replace 100 million 500SEK banknotes at value with 200SEK banknotes you would require 250 million notes. That is very unlikely as Sweden only circulates 287 million notes in all denominations, of which 90 million are 20SEK banknotes (a coin in Norway and Denmark).
Since nearly every Swede responds to these questions with "there is no demand anymore for banknotes", I am puzzled. You could do all your transactions with SWISH, and still keep a cashbox. The response always seems to be that Swedish people trust their banks.
Well, you may trust your bank not to go belly-up, but can you really trust that they won't nickel and dime you to death.
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I did find this table of banknotes and coins per capita for the year 2009&2014 (not purchasing power parity, straight conversion rate)
2014 Currency 2009 change $8,655.39 Switzerland $6,557.23 32.0% $6,429.42 Japan $7,255.42 -11.4% $6,272.93 Hong Kong SAR $3,829.91 63.8% $4,762.28 Singapore $3,176.88 49.9% $4,218.24 United States $3,021.32 39.6% $3,734.85 Euro area $3,629.96 2.9% $2,459.01 Australia $2,249.01 9.3% $1,839.18 Canada $1,721.16 6.9% $1,587.94 United Kingdom $1,391.45 14.1% $1,567.67 Saudi Arabia $3,556.34 -55.9% $1,349.97 Korea $654.37 106.3% $1,108.76 Sweden $1,641.35 -32.4% $1,084.92 Russia $1,078.70 0.6% $606.98 Mexico $451.75 34.4% $480.77 Turkey $359.18 33.9% $410.59 Brazil $395.50 3.8% $217.48 South Africa $407.60 -46.6% $180.46 India $146.38 23.3% ------- China $455.61 $1,274.98 excl euro area $908.59 40.3% $1,564.27 incl euro area $1,129.80 38.5%
But the comparison was based on 2014 statistics in billions of SEK 83.22 Total banknotes and coin issued 77.89 Total banknotes issued 0.002 Commemorative banknotes 2.47 Invalid banknotes 5.34 Total coin issued 3.59 Banknotes and coin held by banks 79.64 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks
But in the 13 months since these figures were compiled, Sweden has greatly reduced their cash supply. 61.44 Total Valid banknotes issued less Commemorative
In the next 17 months as Sweden completes it's changeover to the new banknotes, who knows how low they intend to go. In particular they should get a few billion in Invalid banknotes as many notes will not be found and exchanged.
Personally, I think that the central bank is trying to get the banknote supply well below 50 billion SEK.
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Some quick remarks about some interesting comments you have made. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to respond more in-depth at the moment:
---I agree with you that Riksbank is happy that cash volume is steadily decreasing in Sweden and that they are also facilitating it.
---However, I still doubt that the 1000 kr has been specifically targeted to accomplish this goal. I strongly believe that there just isn't a high demand for this note in Sweden anymore. We could speculate about the reasons. I think it has mainly historical reasons. Sweden hasn't suffered from communism, fascism or an occupation by a foreign force in a very, very long time. Moreover, they trust their government and their banking system. Way more than in people in the US or in certain countries of the Eurozone. They have no real experience with a deep crisis. Yes, I know, Sweden had some tough economic times in the late 1980s/early 1990s but nothing that compares to Greece for example. Furthermore, the Swedes have a rather low standard for privacy. (If anyone from Sweden is reading this: Sorry, but it's the truth. German privacy laws are way more strict, and some things you can do in Sweden are absolutely prohibited here in Germany). So cashless payments are the norm in Sweden now. And I wouldn't be surprised if the few who don't trust have their savings in norwegian or danish kroner or the even the Euro.
---I agree, it's more than a little bit strange that Riksbank doesn't publish how many banknotes they have actually printed. However, I think you might find an answer in their annual reports. I am no accountant. But I think printed banknotes in their vaults should show up somewhere in their annual reports as assets.
---Riksbank has asked the citizens to return old series coins and old series banknotes because they will be demonitized a couple of months after the introduction of the new ones. Speaking from experience (losing the DM, getting the Euro) I can tell you that I and many of my compatriots got rid of DM in the weeks leading up to the change. Swedes might have done the same. Hence the reduction in cash in circulation
---I think the ratio of banknotes per capita is more telling than amount per capita because of the different standards of living (purchasing power parity)
---Off topic: Nobody I know (including myself) believes for a moment that the soon coming abolishment of the 500 Euro banknote has anything to do with fighting crime (terrorism, tax evasion). The ECB just wants to reduce the amount of cash in circulation (always welcomed by the banking industry, governments and big data), wants it to make more expensive for banks to store value in cash (because banks try to evade negative interest rates).
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---I think the ratio of banknotes per capita is more telling than amount per capita because of the different standards of living (purchasing power parity) Although there is some correlation, many other factors come into play.
Classic statistics for "Group of 10" from 1978 (ratio of currency to overall GDP). The "rank" is GDP per capita. 3.7% Canada 7 4.4% USA 4 6.5% Germany 2 6.6% UK 9 7.0% Sweden #1 GDP/capita of the Group of 10 7.0% France 6 7.3% Netherlands 5 8.5% Japan 8 8.6% Italy 10 12.4% Belgium 3 14.3% Switzerland not a member of group of 10
Switzerland had a much higher GDP per capita than any of the group of 10 nations, and it also had the highest amount of currency per GDP. Other than that there isn't a strong correlation between high GDP and Cash.
Statistics in 1999:, Sweden wasn't the primary contender to go "cashless". Currency as a percentage of GDP for EU countries in 1999 follows.
2.29% Finland 2.87% United Kingdom 3.02% Luxembourg 3.03% Denmark 3.35% France 4.37% Sweden 4.53% Ireland 4.63% Netherlands 5.14% Belgium 5.29% Portugal 5.99% Italy 6.58% Germany 6.74% Austria 7.08% Greece 9.72% Spain
Spain and Greece as poorer countries are more reliant on cash. But there are a lot of purely cultural biases. Britain is wary of large value banknotes because of the counterfeiting schemes in WWII. As you said, Germany and Austria value the privacy afforded by cash in transactions. I think of Finland as a more homogeneous country, and more trusting of banks.
Statistics for end of 2014, using same metric (Currency as a percentage of GDP) Sweden is the lead country in going cashless. Data includes all countries on the Committee on Payments and Market Infrastructures. End results for 2015 are not tabulated, but Sweden should now be well below 2%.
2.12% Sweden 3.56% South Africa 3.62% United Kingdom : big increase in 50£ banknote 3.80% Canada 4.01% Brazil 4.41% Australia 4.96% Turkey 5.04% Korea 6.19% Mexico 6.46% Saudi Arabia 7.74% United States (huge % of $100 bills overseas) 8.82% Singapore 10.33% Euro area (much higher than any national currency) 10.99% Switzerland 11.55% India 12.39% Russia 15.67% Hong Kong SAR 20.07% Japan
These countries represent a population of 4 billion, total fiat currency worth over 4.5 trillion dollars, and GDP of over 60 trillion dollars. ====================== ---Riksbank has asked the citizens to return old series coins and old series banknotes because they will be demonetized a couple of months after the introduction of the new ones. Speaking from experience (losing the DM, getting the Euro) I can tell you that I and many of my compatriots got rid of DM in the weeks leading up to the change. Swedes might have done the same. Hence the reduction in cash in circulation
Yes, currency changeover results in turning in a lot of banknotes. The Euro area had equivalent of 380 billion Euros circulating in national banknotes in the year 2000, and reduced the amount to 270 billion by the end of 2001 when the changeover began. But once the new banknotes were introduced they were back to 380 billion in 18 months. By the end of 2014 banknotes passed a trillion euros.
The difference is that Sweden is producing new banknotes, but they are only replacing a small fraction of the old ones. Banks in Sweden only have 370SEK per capita in their vaults and ATMS, which is a paltry 40EUR.
In 2004 the Riksbank had 45.56 billion in 1000SEK banknotes circulating, 45.12 billion in 500SEK banknotes circulating, and 12.78 billion in the smaller banknotes.
As of Jan 2016 the Riksbank had 3.93 billion in 1000SEK banknotes circulating. 46.12 billion in 500SEK banknotes circulating, and 11.39 billion in the smaller banknotes.
Furthermore, 69% of the 1000SEK banknotes still in circulation are of the old type which will be invalid at the end of June 2016. Some of these will never be found, and only a small fraction are being replaced with new banknotes.
====================== ---I agree, it's more than a little bit strange that Riksbank doesn't publish how many banknotes they have actually printed. However, I think you might find an answer in their annual reports. I am no accountant. But I think printed banknotes in their vaults should show up somewhere in their annual reports as assets.
Normally, Central Banks have to report on their expenditures for the year. As banknote production is a big cost, they must report how many banknotes they produced and at what cost per banknote. Then they say that the newest banknotes (many of which are polymer) cost twice as much, but will last three times as long.
Banknotes in circulation are technically considered liabilities, as they represent a promise to pay. But in the case of the USA, the large number of $100 banknotes in circulation in other countries is a debt that is never repaid. So it functions almost like profit.
While I am sure that the desire for privacy is high in any central bank, only Sweden does not publish production statistics. BTW, I wrote to them to see if production statistics were buried deep in some report, and they wrote back and told me that they consider it a secret.
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---Off topic: Nobody I know (including myself) believes for a moment that the soon coming abolishment of the 500 Euro banknote
I was aware that production had slacked off on the banknote, but I though demonetization was just a theoretical argument.
Total production of all time 1,336.2 million 500EURO banknotes, but only 85 million since 2012. As of Dec 2015 613.6 million are in circulation.
Incidentally, Germany never circulated more than 100 million of the 1000DMM banknote.
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Quote: I was aware that production had slacked off on the banknote, Well, the €500 (and to a lesser extent the €200) note don't really circulate here in the Eurozone. They are primarily used to store value. So, the notes don't degenerate like lower denominations and last much longer. The intial production (plus the one from 2004/2005) were sufficient until the financial crisis of 2008/2009 hit. Then, the €500 note was needed again and produced in siginifant numbers 2009—2011, which is apparently still sufficient for present needs. Quote: but I though demonetization was just a theoretical argument. Unfortunately, Mario Draghi and his friends at the ECB are keen on having the ''weapon'' of negative interest rates. Therefore, he must make it much more difficult to store value in cash. The ''crime argument'' is a welcome (but mostly wrong) way to get it done by ending the €500 note. We will know the exact way the ECB will be doing it in a few months. As you can read in other thread here at CCF now even the $100 bill is coming under attack in the USA for the same reason - making storing value in cash difficult. Quote: Incidentally, Germany never circulated more than 100 million of the 1000DMM banknote.
The 1000 DM note was mainly used as a way to store value. Not only in Germany. But the Euro has a greater share of being a reserve currency (or safe haven) around the world then the DM back in the day. Plus, as you can see by the statistics, the demand for cash (=distrust of banks and financial system in general) has considerably risen in the last 15 years. Hence, it's no surprise the that the numbers for the 1000 DM are lower. @PacoMartinYou seem to have the initial production numbers/figures of Euro banknotes. I only have them starting with 2002. It would be great if you could share the numbers of Euro banknotes produced until the end of 2001.
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I use "circulate" to refer to the numbers published by the central bank. I realize that most high value banknotes are not used in normal "transactions" (except in Japan). I also presume that many of the €500 and 1000CHF banknotes are held by people outside of Europe and Switzerland respectively. I think a fair number of 1000 Danish Crown banknotes are held by people outside of Denmark. https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/mon...ndex.en.htmlThe ECB doesn't list the initial production on it's website. Den : Value Millions €500 : € 185,500 : 371 €50 : € 164,150 : 3,283 €100 : € 123,100 : 1,231 €20 : € 68,120 : 3,406 €200 : € 44,600 : 223 €10 : € 32,210 : 3,221 €5 : € 15,775 : 3,155 TOTAL : € 633,455 : 14,890 As of December 2015 the circulation numbers of the smaller value notes are below the initial production. Of course, replacement notes need to be taken into consideration. The €50 note is clearly the most used banknote, but the €100 and €500 are circulating more widely . €50 : €419,914 : 8,398 €500 : €306,780 : 614 €100 : €214,478 : 2,145 €20 : €68,791 : 3,440 €200 : €41,379 : 207 €10 : €23,258 : 2,326 €5 : €8,831 : 1,766 total : €1,083,430 : 18,895 In the entire future Eurozone, banknotes in circulation totaled 380€ billion in 2000, and 270€ billion by the end of 2001, as people rushed to convert banknotes into tangible goods in anticipation of the changeover (and potential review by tax collectors). Circulation figures for the 1000DEM banknote were 1999 93.485 million2000 89.216 million2001 45.615 millionIn the year 2000 other high value denominations banknotes 1000 Dutch Guilder (worth 453.78€ ) 13.3 million 5000 Austrian Schilling (worth 363.36€) 14.0 million To call the initial production of 371 million €500 notes "sufficient" seems like a serious understatement. No rational human being could possibly underestimate the effect on law enforcement of such a large number of high denomination banknotes circulating among countries that previously had no such banknote. Prior to the changeover, the highest denomination banknote in the following countries was: 126.97 € Irish pound 76.22 € French franc 60.10 € Spanish peseta 51.65 € Italian lira (258.23€ in limited quantities) 49.88 € Portuguese escudo 29.35 € Greek drachma =================== There are a lot of proposals to limit high denomination notes. As you said the US$100 banknote comes under attack. I myself think that the quantities of high value banknotes are too extreme for the modern world. But, Sweden is the only country to try and eliminate them. Norway is a distant second since they haven't produced a 1000NOK since 2005, but we don't know if they are going to make 2 million of the new series in or 40 million in 2017.
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After writing my posting from Sunday I did some (re-)search and found a book via Amazon that deals with the Euro banknotes. The author has table in it which claims these were the initial production numbers for Euro banknotes: Denom: # in billion €5: 2,415 €10: 3,013 €20: 3,608 €50: 3,174 €100: 1,246 €200: 229 €500: 360 They are pretty close to the numbers you have calculated. Considering the population of the Netherlands and Austria their highest denomination banknotes (before the Euro) seem also been having used to store value outside the country. It will be very interesting to see how many of the new 1000 Swiss franc banknotes will be made.
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Quote: I did find this table of banknotes and coins per capita for the year 2009&2014 (not purchasing power parity, straight conversion rate)
2014 Currency 2009 change <...> $1,084.92 Russia $1,078.70 0.6% 2014 which month? The exchange rates from early January and late December differed by about a factor of two (almost three for mid-December), while presumably the amount of circulating money didn't change that much. I suspect a comparison of November 2014 and January 2015 would've shown a -40% or so (due to exchange rate fluctuations), which might well have overshadowed anything else over several years either way. Over here in Russia, the largest banknote denomination is 5000 rubles (about 60 euros); the smallest still made is 50 rubles (0.6 euros), but there's a lot of 10 ruble (0.12 euro) banknotes still in circulation even though they hadn't been made for about five years (in theory, the smallest denomination is 5 rubles, which was made briefly in the late 1990s; last time I saw one of these in circulation was in 2003, and even by then they were very rare*). I didn't really note any significant cashlessness, but it's complicated to use something other than cash for the smaller purchases, and we just don't really do the big stuff - say, more than a hundred euros or so - particularly often, so it's hard to say. *) I wonder what is the smallest legal tender denomination of, say, US or Canadian paper money. I think it's 3 cents for the US and 25 cents for Canada, but I might be remembering legal tender status incorrectly, and/or forgetting some lower denomination currency.
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I know circulation figures for Switzerland, but I haven't seen production figures Billions CHF Year : 1000CHF / All banknotes 2010: 30.41 / 51.50 2011: 33.28 / 55.73 2012: 37.42 / 61.80 2013: 40.03 / 65.77 2014: 40.54 / 67.60 2015: 41.79 / 67.41 2014 population 8.2366 million (5 notes per capita) In the year 2000 Notes per capita : Mega-banknote 0.8 : 1000 Dutch Guilder 1.1 : 1000 German Mark 1.7 : 5000 Austrian Schilling Presumably all three notes circulated outside of the country as it would be natural to expect some minor league currency speculation. ============================ Russian figures are from Red Book of Statistics on payment, clearing and settlement systems in the CPMI countries - The exchange rate was for "end of year" 2014 Exchange rate (RUR/USD): 56.26 end of year 37.97 average for year Since Russia is a very cash based economy, the banks have to hold a lot of banknotes. Sweden has the lowest cash per GDP of the list of countries. China statistics are unreliable. Banknotes and coin held by banks 4.31% Sweden 19.22% Russia -------------------- Other Russian statistics for 2014 144,967 Population (thousands) 71,406.4 GDP (RUR billions) 492,570 GDP per capita (RUR) 11.4 Consumer price inflation (%) RUR billions, end of year 8,848.22 Total banknotes and coin issued 8,770.50 Total banknotes issued 6,018.75 RUR 5000 2,184.71 RUR 1000 403.50 RUR 500 126.51 RUR 100 32.20 RUR 50 4.81 RUR 10 0.04 RUR 5 77.72 Total coin issued 1,700.27 Banknotes and coin held by banks 7,147.94 Banknotes and coin in circulation outside banks
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I don't want to completely lose sight of my main point. The so called "cashless" society is necessary if the central government is ever going to institute negative interest rates which are increasingly seen by governments as the only way to propel economic activity.
Sweden is leading the charge for the world. Some aspects of the transition are:
(1) Time! They are in a decades long process. If you move faster you might cause panic (2) Tokenism! Sweden removed the mega 10,000SEK banknote from circulation in the early 1990s. At the time it was worth about US$1800. It is completely invalid currency today. But with the 1000SEK banknote they chose a different tactic. They have reduced circulation so low, that the most logical thing would be to simply terminate the denomination. But it is better public relations to produce a design,show it off in the media, and then produce so few notes that most people will never see such a banknote. (3) Secrecy! Most countries have Freedom of Information laws that would force a central bank to publish production figures. Sweden seems exempt. (4) Distraction! Confusing the two primary purposes of cash, anonymous transactions and "store of value". If Sweden really wanted to discourage cash transactions they would turn the 20-kr and possibly the 50-kr banknote into a coin. The more cumbersome it is to do cash transactions the more likely you are to go to electronic means even for small purchases. Instead they have destroyed circulation of the 1000SEK banknote, and they appear to have eyes set on the 500SEK banknote. So they are making the banknote a less convenient "store of value". (5) Availability! While ATMs are the primary means of getting cash in most countries, they are increasingly the only way to get cash in Sweden. Since cash held by banks has been reduced to 370SEK per capita (about 40 Euros) the odds are that the ATMs will run out of cash in even a small increase in conversion to cash. (6) Slight of Hand! The Riksbank has removed 22.16 million 500SEK banknotes from circulation in past 13 months. They have added 5.71 brand new 200SEK banknotes. It is reasonable to assume that they will continue this process for the next 11 months until the new 500SEK banknotes are issued. While people are looking at the new banknote (the first of this denomination in Sweden's history), they won't notice that most of the higher value banknotes are gone. Presumably they won't be replaced.
The reduction of banknotes to purely "petty cash" won't necessarily allow the government Orwellian power. I am not a fear-monger. But it will permit banks to reduce interest rates to zero and institute fees on top of that. For most people the difficulties of converting to another currency and the inherent unknowns regarding future exchange rates will not make that a viable option. As studies have shown even banks will accept small negative interest rates because other options are too expensive.
It will be interesting if this experiment in Sweden will be repeated elsewhere. Norway is a good candidate with their new banknotes upcoming. The UK is planning new polymer banknotes as well. Canada, New Zealand and Australia are also possibilities.
Russia? Japan? I think that USA and EURO zone are less likely possibilities because they enjoy so much benefit from people outside of their region using their banknotes.
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Quote: I suspect a comparison of November 2014 and January 2015 would've shown a -40% or so (due to exchange rate fluctuations), which might well have overshadowed anything else over several years either way. -january1may Yes, you are correct. Converting to US dollars tends to make it look like there are fewer rubles over a several year period. In reality, there are more every year (which is true of nearly every country except Sweden). Trillions of Russian Rubles (both in and out of banks) 2010 5.79 #1088;#1091;#1073; 2011 6.90 #1088;#1091;#1073; 19.2% 2012 7.68 #1088;#1091;#1073; 11.2% 2013 8.32 #1088;#1091;#1073; 8.3% 2014 8.85 #1088;#1091;#1073; 6.4% Sweden has been reducing currency liability since 2007. I am expecting back to back reductions of over 10% for the next two years with the new banknotes and coins. Billions of Swedish Crowns (both in and out of banks) 2007 114.32 kr 2008 112.27 kr -1.8% 2009 110.66 kr -1.4% 2010 104.57 kr -5.5% 2011 99.44 kr -4.9% 2012 95.78 kr -3.7% 2013 84.98 kr -11.3% 2014 83.22 kr -2.1% 2015 73.40 kr -11.8%
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