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35mm Macro Lenses

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 Posted 10/03/2015  11:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There are a couple of 35mm macro lenses available that are useful for coin photography. Their main use is for higher magnifications, from 2:1 up to perhaps 6:1. Because they have adjustable apertures, they can do a good job for variety detail shots without focus stacking.

The lenses I own in this category were both sold with the Polaroid MP3 or MP4 macro photography system. This was a large format system, so image quality over a large coverage area was required. This is a very different requirement versus microscope objectives, which were really only required to be sharp at the centers where live viewing was done. It is actually rare to find a microscope objective that has wide coverage and flat field.

The lenses are:
- Rodenstock 35mm f4 Eurygon
- Tomioka 35mm f4 Tominon

The lenses are small, like enlarger lenses, but because they are macro lenses, they do not need to be mounted in reverse. The MP3/MP4 systems were intended for use with large format lenses, so are threaded M40 x 0.75mm to mount into Copal-0 shutters. This means they need an M40 to M42 adapter for use with common bellows.

I get about the same image quality from either of the lenses. At around 5:1 on APS-C, with f5.6, here are the images:

Eurygon
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The sharpness is obviously not as good as a focus-stacked image taken with an M5 or similar objective, but was simpler to take since this is a single image, no stacking required. For many folks this would be good enough, even for variety identification. This coin has a very minor split lower serif, and it shows well at this magnification.
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 Posted 10/03/2015  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1931Loonie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you rmpsrpms for the comparison pictures. The Eurygon seems have a little more contrast than the Tominon.
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Thanks Ray. What kind of working distance are you getting with this kind of magnification?
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Working distance is around 30mm. The lens is around 28mm in diameter so you can light at 45-deg without special techniques.

The differences in contrast may be due to small differences in post-processing, but I do agree there are differences. The Eurygon seems a bit more contrasty and saturated, while the Tominon seems a bit sharper to me. Field is nice and flat on both.
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I wonder how these compare to other 35-38mm bellows lenses from Canon, Olympus, or others?
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The Canon 35mm f2.8 Macrophoto Lens is, quite literally, the best macro lens available for 2.5:1-4:1. Amazingly, it holds up well against the 95mm f2.8 Printing-Nikkor, though at 2:1 the 95PN is King. The 35MP is still excellent at 6:1, quite a bit better than the Eurygon or Tominon. But it is also f2.8, so has a full stop advantage...and costs 5x as much.

edited to add: "better" also means that focus stacking is required. Once you stop the 35MP or 38Oly down to where stacking is not required, they will be pretty much equivalent to the Eurygon/Tominon. It's only if you're willing to focus stack that you can achieve a better result.

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