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1984 Lincoln Memorial Cent DDO

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 Posted 01/16/2008  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
:) And I definitely have no expertise either. I'd love for Copppercoins to comment or get some clear pictures.
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 Posted 01/16/2008  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I concur. The pictures aren't clear enough to get a definite view. My impression, from what I have seen in all the photos, and extra magnification, is a "possible", but not sure.
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 Posted 01/17/2008  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a doubled die, and actually no doubling at all.

The lighting is playing tricks in the images.

The coin has a hump - a mound in the field around the 84 of the date, and there is a 'shadow' to the right of that area. This is caused by die wear and has nothing to do with doubling.
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 Posted 01/17/2008  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
honestabe, could you PM me? I have some ideas that I'd like to try with your photos.
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Some people just dont seem to understand Machine Doubling. Take a look at a coupla hundred Kennedy half dollars and you will see radical Machine Doubling.

You need to study what is and what isn't a doubled die. Once you get familiar with one or the other, you can easily pick out what you are looking at.

There will always be a few that are tricky to ID but those of us who have seen thousands of doubled dies and most of the known varieties and then have seen literally a million examples of Machine Doubling. don't have a problem telling the difference.

I am usually reluctant to be definitive when pictures could be better (on occasion) but even when the pictures aren't perfect, there is usually enough to go by so that an experienced eye can tell the difference.
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The pictures here show motion of the plating even in the blurry state that the pictures are in. I have seen them where the details look like they are doubled with a spread as wide as half of a number in the date. Look at doubled dies on Chuck's site or the few on my site. Once you've seen one in person, it is tough to confuse die doubling and Machine Doubling.
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Sigh...perhaps it's just a trick of the light, or the fact I'm not enough of a Lincoln specialist to tell the difference. Not that I'm an ignoramus regarding DDs, lol...I have cherrypicked a few already with poorer photos than these. Let the experts make the call...but I'd still like to see bigger/sharper pics, which would undoubtedly make it clear to me.
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