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1878 7/8 Grade It If U Would/ New Pic Tail Feathers

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 Posted 01/16/2008  09:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was going thur some coin last night noticed and odd shape on the revsre of this 1878 7/8
So please grade away
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I looked on www,ashmore.com before I posted this only thing that matched was the eye clash mark
Here's the tail feathers


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01/17/2008 05:26 am
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 Posted 01/16/2008  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Amac,
I've seen that wedge-shaped mark on many Morgans. I believe it is a clash mark corresponding to the indentation at the bottom of Liberty's cap on the obverse.

I see only slight rub on the high points of your coin and some darkening of the obverse field in front of Liberty. I think there is just enough rub to drop this coin into the high AU range: AU-55 or AU-58.

I wonder if our Morgan specialists can assign a VAM number?
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 Posted 01/16/2008  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would try, but I can't see AMACs pictures here at work. It strips photobucket, et al, pictures. If they were posted directly to the page, I could see them.
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 Posted 01/16/2008  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jaobler!
I was hoping the same thing?
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 Posted 01/16/2008  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks SeatedNut!
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Amac, Jaobler's right about the clash on the reverse, it isn't that uncommon. I also agree on the grade he assigned. There seems to be very little luster on the coin as well, but that could just be the way the picture is taken.

If it is a true 7/8 TF, a close up of the tailfeathers would help make the attribution easier. From the pics it's hard to tell how many (if there are any) showing.

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That's a standard 8TF, rather than a 7/8TF. All 8 tailfeathers are full. Would it be possible for you to post your excellent detail pics of the "F" in "OF," and of the areas where the eagle's wing feathers meet the legs on both sides? That will help us greatly with VAM attribution.
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What I was asking for is the "F" in "OF," and the feathers where the wings meet the legs, the places which I've circled in your photo below. Those feathers are different among the differing dies used on 8TF Morgans, and clear pics of both sides will greatly aid in identifying what VAM it is. The F in OF looks to me to have a bulge near the bottom, and that is a characteristic of a specific reverse die shared by 11 VAM's. 9 of that 11 are very rare, carrying significant added value, and the other two are common. If that bulge is present, we'll switch to the obverse to nail down exactly what VAM it is.
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 Posted 01/17/2008  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm blind, I see no photo below with circled areas
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1878-7/8-Grade-It-If-U-Would/--New-Pic-Tail-Feathers

No, I'm senile.

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 Posted 01/18/2008  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank Super Dave
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 Posted 01/18/2008  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blcoinnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cant tell, dont know to much about it
but I really like your tail feathers pix.
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