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Help Me Find The Die Of A 1817 And 1845 Large Cent

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 Posted 10/10/2015  05:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello CCF

last week I bought the Red Book guide delux edition
to sort out some US coins I own.
before I came here I did not know about dies and heads of other years ,berries and all that good stuff.
but I have awoken !

so the delux book is good but it has not all the diffrent dies the N- dies as I refer them because I do not know to whoem it refers to.

Nhow I found this site but it also has not all the info I'm looking for
http://www.earlycents.com/
i did manage to atribute a few like the 1818 N-10
the 1834 N-3,and a 1846 N-3 ...i think lol

the 1817 is in bad shape though
it might not be posssible to find that die



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the 1845 is in good shape but again not enough info on wich die this can be



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Help-Me-Find-The-Die-Of-A-1817-And-1845-Large-Cent

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so any help,thouhgts comments are appreciated
thanks in advance
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 Posted 10/10/2015  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Angled shots are difficult to use for attributions. The 1817 looks lke it should be attributable without too much trouble but a straight on shot OUT of the holder would make it a lot easier.

Late dates are often impossible to attribute from photos but it may be possible to arrow down possibilities. Once again straight on shots out of the holder makes it easier. An enlarged image of the date area, including the denticles, is neededas well.

And the N stands for Howard Newcomb who wrote what became the standard reference for the middle and late dates in 1944.
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 Posted 10/10/2015  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck, I started a set about 8 years ago, and I didn't know what I was getting into to. Too many dates, have too many varieties.
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10/10/2015 10:03 am
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 Posted 10/10/2015  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i understand condor i'll do my best to get'm out and get'm up close..i just don't know what you mean by denticles..i tryed translation (tooth or toothlike part.) but I do not know what area you mean.

about the later dates I do not have to many later dates a 1846 wich I was able to identiy as a N-3
then 3x 1847 wich all look diffrent,a 1849 and a 1852
and about 6 of'm is pre 1840's but thats for a later date.
thanks for the advice



@TCG
not planning on that mate...as you said to many varieties
and some are not cheap
i just found these in a box tucked away in a cellar thats why I started collecting coins,but after seeing rarity/price diffrences just by die, I had to know what I own



here are the better shots, can't do any better




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10/10/2015 12:54 pm
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 Posted 10/10/2015  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lovecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
denticles are the toothlike or bead like (determined on coin) that is around the edge.
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 Posted 10/10/2015  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so in plain hillbilly that means the edge's theeth ?
think I coverd that :)

sorry english is not my main language so bare with me please...hehe
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 Posted 10/10/2015  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
in plain hillbilly


It would "Toofs", "Teefes".

Your English is just fine dohcollector.
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 Posted 10/10/2015  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1817 is N-10. I defer to others for the 1845.

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 Posted 10/11/2015  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can you believe you all just made my morning/day ....i just feel realy happy
to know whitch cent this is.....realy weird?

is there something wrong with me.....
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You did fine.
Newcomb #'s are fine to learn but if you are just starting out..forget it.
Just have fun and collect a date set.
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its har to say if you are cheering or putting me down vermont

but with all due respect , I believe you are under estemating my intellegence here.
it would be far easyer if I would have Newwcomb guide so I would not have to relay on people.


because I myself thought I was having fun
so any1 ,please make me happy and help me look up the 1845







edit= because I was dumb
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10/11/2015 2:08 pm
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Dohcollector ... You have posted pics of Half Cents. It's not then surprising that the berries don't match, eh what?

VT would never put you down. He's among the most respected participants on the CCF. He's encouraging you to explore the forest before climbing the trees, methinks.
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 Posted 10/11/2015  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok its official ..I'm dumb i'll remove that

and I know he's not putting me down ;)
i just wanted to say I like/enjoy climbig the trees even if I do not know the forrest
although I know not every tree is the same :)

I've been collecting for over a year, granted its not that long but its time to lose the ignorance and start knowing the history of what I own and not just put them in little 2x2's with a date on

I'm shure you guys can understand that
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We all make "misteaks" ....
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 Posted 10/11/2015  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you want to get into large cent attribution, there are a few good books. You'd think that Newcomb's book would be the best one, but it's a bit difficult to use. I prefer Bill Noyes or John Wrights books.

BTW, attribution after 1839 is a bit tricky as the differences are very slight. Coins need to be a high grade to tell in most cases.



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10/11/2015 10:29 pm
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i get what you are saying but I do not want to get into large cents collecting thats a whole diffrnet ballgame,i just want to get some attributed.
just bought the delux RedBook for the extra large cent section.but its not complete enough to do the task I want.but I did not know that..
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