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New Member
Canada
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Hi, I'm new here so I don't know if this is the right place to post but anyways I was wondering if 25$ is worth it for a Japanese 416 One Yen 900 (Japan Silver coin - Meiji era).   |
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Valued Member
United States
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I am afraid you have a fantasy coin. Touch a magnet to it, if it sticks it isn't silver. I've included the image from the catalog and you can see the reverse doesn't have as much space between the rim and wreath. Even if not magnetic, it cannot be real because a true Mutsuhito (Meiji)Year 8 (1875) is listed between $3,700 in Fine and $16,500 in Unc. See if you can get your money back.  Edited by jjwabraham
10/15/2015 8:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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It is definitely a counterfeit. The details are wrong.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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New Member
 Canada
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Thanks for the info, I didn't buy it yet, I figured something must of been wrong if it was that cheap, thanks a lot for saving me 25$!
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New Member
Jamaica
12 Posts |
Do you mind telling me where you get this coin, because I remember saw it on ebay and I had report it as a fake coin to ebay |
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New Member
United States
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I have a similar question about a year 8 meiji coin. Any help would be appreciated   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1911 Posts |
Just looking and at least that second one posted looks a bit closer than the OP.. no clue though is interesting since I am starting to collect Japanese coins though. Will wait for experts.
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Moderator
 United States
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Almost all these I encounter are fake.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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New Member
United States
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Any common things to look for to determine fake or real?
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New Member
New Zealand
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Hey everyone, it seems a full time job sorting the fakes from the genuine. There are sites selling obviously fake coins on ebay. Coins that don't exist in the combination of dates and cities etc. I now only deal with people I trust, been stung a few times but learn quickly hahaha. Great to be a member of a group of people who are honest and willing to share their knowledge and experience. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 To CCF A little unusual to use a two year old thread to make your first post. I am guessing counterfeit coins are something you feel strongly about. Many of us here do too. I hope to hear more from you, and see what a NZ collector likes to collect. |
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Japan
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The last pair of photos of of the M8 1 Yen looks genuine to me, although the photo is not super clear.
A few of points I look for:
- The weight is 26.96g. Brass with silver plating are often around 22g. The steel with silver plating are often around 17g, and you can feel that these are light even without a magnet... they are also too thin.
- The flame at the top of the dragon, there are 3 spines visible. It's consistent with this year(M8 1885). The other main variety has 4 spines: 1897->1891, and 1914. 1892 has both varieties, with the 4 spine being rarer.
- The two dots each side of the "One Yen" are about half the diameter of the dots next to 416 & 900. On the 4 spine variety, they are about 2/3 the diameter. The fakes often have this wrong.
- The character at the very top(#27835;), the single stroke has no sharp hook for the 3 spine, but it does for the 4 spine. This is a detail which is often missed on the fakes.
- The spiral on the ball is not as fine on the fakes.
The first pair of photos, the details are VERY obviously fake.
- There are two dots to the right of the 900, but there should only be on large one.
- The reverse detail is too small.
- The lettering is too chunky, and not refined
- The denticles are too long and not straight on some places.
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