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1946-S LWC Pre-Strike Foldover, Extra Piece Of Metal, Or ?

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What do you all think?


1946-S-LWC-Pre-Strike-Foldover,-Extra-Piece-Of-Metal,-Or-?

1946-S-LWC-Pre-Strike-Foldover,-Extra-Piece-Of-Metal,-Or-?
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 Posted 10/19/2015  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a nice lamination.
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Looks like a nice lamination


Due to the quality of the pic, I can see why you might think that, but in-hand it looks different than the hundreds of lamination errors I have run across. There is no gap under the area that looks like a "crack". The area in question is all raised above the surface of the coin. Sorry for the misleading photos...
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 Posted 10/19/2015  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a photo of the edge?
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Can you post a photo of the edge?


Sure, here you go:


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 Posted 10/20/2015  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still looks like a Lam to me.
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It's always hard to be 100% sure looking at a photo verses having the coin in hand, but I think it is extra metal.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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extra metal.


What do you mean?
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As SSK says it sure looks like a lam. Do you think its a Retained Cud then because its raised ? do Cuds have that much detail on them ?
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I'd agree with a lamination error, also I'm not sure how it would be extra metal.

As a last resort, if you don't agree with a lam error, I would say that there is a possibility that this is a bi-level die crack.
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Maybe a "retained" struck through?
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Yeah, I was umming and arring between a retained struck though and bi-level die crack.

One can only speculate..
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If it is a Struck through extra metal, then it should weigh a bit more than normal. If the weight is normal then it would be a lamination. But I'm thinking the weight will be over normal, a bit.
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I think I'm about ready to give up on this coin... it weighs in at 2.9 grams. Arggghhhh.
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So it's underweight? If the weights fluctuated back then, it still could be either, but if not then I don't know where to start.. Square 1 again maybe haha
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There is a clear line on the obverse portion of the rim which continues the "crack" around the perimeter of the feature. This suggests to me that it is a rim break with a rim-to-rim die crack with some vertical displacement.
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