Never Seen An 1909 VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent Like This One.thoughts?

Thanks for the welcome. Nothing personal to coppercoins. However, there are thousands of error coins out there to be found. It's not impossible to find them. One must give credit to the above discoverer of coin found. Don't let my short tenure with this site mistakenly reflect my knowledge of this subject. I have had a life time of enjoyment in coin collecting and some incredible finds. I'm sure chuck can teach me a few things. It's not how much you know but what you know.

Homer - Your coin is a nice coin - nothing wrong with that. I wasn't knocking the coin, don't take me wrong.

I have seen hundreds of mint state and AU condition 1909 cents, and this one suffers from the same thing that probably 10-20% of all the ones I have seen suffer from - it's called 'ejection doubling' and is a simple matter of the coin being scooped off the die by the feeder finger before it has broken completely loose from the die. The result is a slight scooting and uplifting of the details on the coin. That's the spade this one is. There is no premium value in minor hiccups in the striking process.

This coin is definitely not 'satin' which is specifically the name given to proof coins of the era. This is a normal 1909 cent...not proof, not an error.

I deal in facts. I don't answer with opinions. If I know, I answer. If I don't know, I keep my trap shut. That much you should know about me. All this stuff about me being an expert and 'the' expert I don't subscribe to. I just study the series, and have for three decades now. I don't study coins, I study the Lincoln Cent. I cannot tell you nearly as much about any other coin, but when it comes to Lincoln cents, I probably know them better than I know the back of my hand.

No response needed, the expert of all coins knows that the entire process of attribution is purely guess work and nobody could look at a coin and tell what happened to it. We might as well all pack it in and go home, nothing left here but the guessing.

And to think I poured countless hours, tens of thousands of dollars, and 30 years of my life into a completely fruitless effort. If I had only known the real answer was so simple.

I do find this all very interesting.

Firstly, I agree with coppercoins' view on this coin. Having seen many of them that look very much like the one at the beginning of the thread, I will go on record as saying that ejection from the die has caused this. I did not have to have my head between the die and the coin being struck (although that would make one messy "struck through" error) to figure out what happened as we see it all the time.

I will also stick up for those of us, not that Chuck needs this, that look through millions of coins for fun and profit. We have a clue, the folks here on this forum are aware of those of us who do have a clue.

We enjoy sharing what we know and we enjoy teaching others. We have also been around the hobby long enough to know that Breen was not as good as Breen thinks he was. Me thinks it's time for you to find some newer resources. Also, if one of your resources was written by Frank Spadone...trade that one in too.

Thanks...

Homer1, If you need some GOOD rescorces, on cents, Check the coppercoins.com website. I believe you will bw adequately informed about what is also there. Not siding, just recommending. You have 50 years of collecting coins. Great! So have a lot of ithere. Are you an Author? Have you been piblished? Tell us about yourself. We know you are opionated, and consider yourself an "expert on all coins"! That is quite a mouthful. I don't know Chuck personally, but I do respect WHO he is, and WHAT he stands for. I am sorry , but I can't say the same about you. Who are you? Tell us about yourself. It should be interesting!
Dick

I'm guessing the anticipated response here is that which will not be received - a completely unprofessional bashing, which possibly well deserved, is not my style. I will leave it at that.

If those who log in here to read posts and ask questions don't want educated facts as their answer, perhaps they should seek their answers elsewhere. It would be easy to agree with all of the opinions offered here to be popular, but that would not only go against the moral of offering education for education's sake, but would also defeat the purpose of this forum altogether. No sense having it if everyone's first belief of what they have is correct.

An unfortunate byproduct of having a forum is its trolls, who come aboard just to shake up the emoitions of the others involved and get response and attention. Almost all of the time they don't care whether it is positive or negative as long as it is attention. I have been around close to a dozen different forums in my computing experience, and I have found in more cases than not, ignoring the trolls takes their power away, which consequently takes their interest away as well and they eventually fade into memory. Those who use the forum for its intended purpose ALWAYS win by ignoring trolls and moving on with regular business.

In my mind there's nothing to see here, just move on. The correct response has been gven to the original opener of this thread, no sense in letting a hijacked thread continue. This will be my last post here unless the original opener of the thread needs further clarification as to what they have.

Homer1, First, allow me to appologize for the unwarranted statements. I responded because I don't like to see someone come in and "lord it over" one or all the others. I don't care what your profession, or life is, or was. I meant only the part that pertains to coin collecting, and the sharing of ones experience in that respect. If I offended you, I'm sorry. It was un intended. You seem to be very much on the defense. We are not "attacking" you. We will not steal your knowledge, and expertise. We only want to share "OUR hobby", and gain from the sharing.
I am a Navy retiree. Another "salty old dog". I've been "around the horn" a time or two, but I don't think it has anything to do with coin collecting. I'm 83 yeares old, and think this has gone far enough. Care to go back to square one?
Dick