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Never Seen An 1909 VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent Like This One.thoughts?

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 Posted 01/18/2008  12:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was going through 09s and getting a feel for the grade of each. About 3/4s into them, I came across this VDB.

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Upon closer inspection, it has some interesting things going on with it. On the obverse, on most the lettering there is additional raised metal on top each of them. The top set is slightly mis-aligned with the bottom set.

I am not going to call it anything since I don't know squat but I thought it was interesting enough to let the experts give their opinion. I have a lot of 09s and none resemble this cent. It's probably nothing just Machine Doubling as 99% posted are but I didn't see anything in the Cherrypickers or Coppercoins.com resembling it. Plus it never hurts to ask.

I have included the regular photos along with embossed photos which make this claim more evident.

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Note the Darker Gray and the indentions on the embossed.

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01/18/2008 12:45 am
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 Posted 01/18/2008  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's the 09 vdb DDO? Really nice looking coin though!
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 Posted 01/18/2008  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! I will have to check my 09 now
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 Posted 01/18/2008  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nelrak, I am looking and trying to understand what I see. Though it does not look like the typical MD to me, it almost has to be caused by the stamping process. what I do not understand is why it appears on every devise letter and does not appear anywhere on Lincoln's bust. If it is there, I do not see it.

I know foundinrolls (Bill) likes to say the consistent thing about MD is that it is inconsistent. Still, all the way around the coin with a what appears to be a northward shift and nothing in the middle?

I will be very interested in hearing what Chuck and Bill think.

Jim
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 Posted 01/18/2008  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know either, I just thought it was neat and thought I'd share. It's different than the other 500 or so 09s I have accumulated and the thousands of cents I have looked at over the years.

Also the R in TRUST has a bump in the middle of it, Lincoln has a new mole on his cheek just right of the lower ear and the S in PLURBIS is filled at the top.

It has a lot of character.
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01/18/2008 10:15 am
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 Posted 01/18/2008  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think I have seem one like this either.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's ejection doubling, happens while the coin is being pushed out of the press. Pretty common and not worth a premium value.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate you taking the time to offer your opinion/analysis.

I suspected it was something simple...still pretty neat to see on a coin almost 100 years old!
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 Posted 01/19/2008  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin!
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 Posted 01/19/2008  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Homer1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like a Satan finish business strike with doubling at date and liberty, very rare.
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 Posted 01/19/2008  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no doubling on the coin, and it is not proof (satin).
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Hey, I call a spade a spade, you can take that to the bank. Your not the only opinon here, go research like I did. Besides who needs nay sayers anyway.
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01/19/2008 12:14 pm
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 Posted 01/19/2008  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hit the bunkers, 'IN COMING" !

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1, you may already know, but Chuck (coppercoins) is one of the preeminent Lincoln Cent experts in the US. He is published on the subject and works in the industry. Though he can be brief at times, he is as a rule "dead on the money" when it comes to Lincoln Cents. Not that he can't be wrong, but it is not often.

Jim

Oh, I have not had the opportunity to welcome you to the forum, so I will now. Sure glad you are here and look forward to hearing about your collection.
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