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 Posted 01/18/2008  1:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add blcoinnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Check out this sale,smells fishy to me.
What do you think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...B:SS:US:1123
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 Posted 01/18/2008  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After seeing the Anacs holder. I will refrain from comment.

MM
Edited by morganman
01/18/2008 1:35 pm
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 Posted 01/18/2008  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it because his English is bad ? He's in Croatia.
Profile and feedback looks good. Haven't seen the product in detail yet.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Republic of Croatia? And just what do you think you could do if he sent you a piece of cardboard? What if he sent you nothing? Would you go there and attempt to have him arrested?
My advise is forget it.
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1sikevo's Avatar
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 Posted 01/18/2008  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin looks cast. Have never seen that ANACS holder before.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with carl, but it good be alright. The thing is do you really want to risk $2400? And if you could afford losing $2400, spend some more money and get a nicer looking coin here in the US.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't just walk away, RUN!!
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 Posted 01/18/2008  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Homer1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In think it's Counterfeit and a good one at that.
Edited by Homer1
01/18/2008 4:38 pm
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 Posted 01/18/2008  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Coin looks cast. Have never seen that ANACS holder before.



Not really, IMO it has the look of a metal detector find and then the corrosion was cleaned off, leaving the pitting. That ANACS holder was discontinued 2 or so years ago but was used for many years.

Why does everyone seem so certain that it is fake and the seller is a scammer? ebay member for 4+ years and powerseller with over 1800 feedback and 99.9%. Just because he is from Europe doesn't mean he couldn't possibly possess an authentic 200+ year old US coin.
Edited by biokemist6
01/18/2008 5:03 pm
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 Posted 01/18/2008  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahhh... just to let you know how little knowledge I have of coins recovered from detecting. The rough surfaces gave it that cast texture instead of strike look.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks OK to me.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seller seems ok, but I agree that for that much money, if you want that particular coin, find it in the US where there is a return policy and maybe where you can examine it up close for potential counterfeit.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just my opinion, but I'd buy this coin if I were in the market. I disagree with the naysayers. This sale does not appear to be "fishy" or a bad risk. Here's why:

1) The coin is genuine and authentically holdered. I called ANACS and determined that the cert number is real and matches the coin exactly. Also, the holder is authentic. Up until recently, this was the type of holder ANACS used to house coins with problems ("corroded, cleaned"). Now they use holders similar to their non-problem coin holders.

2) If you use paypal, you have built-in buyer protection. You probably have something close to full buyer protection on your major credit card, and if you don't, you should look for a new credit card.

3) The seller is reputable:
a. The seller has 5787 positive feedbacks and 1 negative since 2003. He does have a few neutrals and feedback-withdrawn-by-mutual-agreement, but I checked Toolhaus and many of the neutral comments look like the buyer was at fault.

b. Also, his photos are good.

c. Most importantly, nowhere in his 5788 feedbacks is there ever any complaint of the seller sending out counterfeit coins or coins in fraudulent holders.

4) For a problem coin, this one is very nice for the assigned grade . You couldn't get a problem free example this nice for that kind of money. The price looks more or less right for a VF20 example of this coin, and this coin looks much prettier than your typical VF20 with no problems.

Plus, it looks like a very pretty coin. I have a gorgeous half dollar (1917-D Obv. MM) that has a tiny notch in the reeding on the reverse. This renders it a "no-grade" coin. But apart from that tiny notch, the coin is AU easy. If it weren't for that notch, the coin would be out of my price range. On this half-dime, the problems do not appear to be distracting.

Again, just my opinion.
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 Posted 01/18/2008  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When buying online it matters little where the seller is located.

No one can be sure from a photo, no matter how good it is.

The sellers ebay stats look good.

It all boils down to the coin, how much you want it.

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