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1920-S Off Metal Buffalo Nickel W Lamination

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 Posted 10/24/2015  2:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dr86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Searched for errors and oddities in my buffalo section and found one coin that is nothing like the rest. It is literally frosty white in color compared to metallic silvery color. Makes me think of the coin being off metal right away. It kinda makes you think of that re-plated 1943 cent just a more whiteish color tint instead of gray. The coin is 4.72g and I'm not sure how to grade it so if anyone could give me a hand on that based of pictures that would be awesome. You can see the lamination peel on the cheek. I do have a problem with lightning and pictures but ill do my best to take the best ones I can to show you guys, but to the naked eye you can clearly see the difference. The very first picture ill post is the rim and the coin is 100% that color.

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 Posted 10/24/2015  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it's "off metal".

I think it has that slightly pitted, acid treated "restored" look they get when they go through the date restoration process.

The lamination on the cheek is still pretty neat though.
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 Posted 10/24/2015  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dr86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i didnt know that Buffalo nickels get restored. interesting.
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 Posted 10/24/2015  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree...looks like it spent some time in a vinegar bath.
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 Posted 10/24/2015  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree - acid treated in some way.
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 Posted 10/24/2015  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dr86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so if I start scratching the coin I should be able to see the its real metal right?
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 Posted 10/24/2015  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "real metal" is what you are seeing. It has just been pitted due to the acid bath and the surface has been slightly altered.

To give you the Readers Digest condensed version this is kinda sorta what happens: Nickels are an alloy of mostly copper and nickel. When the coin is struck with the dies, the densities of those metals are different in detailed and non detailed areas of the struck coin. When the coin is subjected to the acid, it attacks the copper and nickel at different rates. As the metals are removed at different rates the details of the original coin reappear like magic.

Yes, people do collect them.
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Yup, not off metal but definitely dipped and metal removed.
Hence the granular/dull appearance.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dr86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so would this acid bath buffalo be worth keeping for the lamination or is it ruined because of the acid bath?
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She's ruined. Personally I keep all my buffalo's dateless or not and I'll sell them in bulk when I get a roll or so.

Is that a D mint? 3rd pick looks like it
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