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Saddle Double Struck No Date Jefferson Nickel

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Saddle Double Struck No Date Jefferson Nickel

I have always wanted one but they usually go for big numbers I snagged this one for $27 with shipping very happy as the same coin slabbed on ebay is going for $80 and up.

its a very small saddle but for my budget this will do as a starting point.

Any comments, suggestions, or feedback always welcome.


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http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Date-PCG...AOSw9r1V8rDF

If you live near central Florida my local coin club on Tuesday is having the author of a new nickel variety book coming out soon is speaking and givinge a presentation this Tuesday in Central Florida if you want to swing by.

http://www.ocalacoinclub.com/

As a avid nickel variety collector I look forward to this and even got a xerox rough draft of his book from the editor.

Rick Bousquet collects, specializes, and photographs Jefferson nickels. He has discovered new varieties, found nearly all the Breen varieties, and helped contribute to the CherryPickers Guide.

His newest project is updating his book of Jefferson Die Varieties and Minting Errors.

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10/24/2015 4:28 pm
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Nice pick-up.

The only thing that would improve it is a date but you can't have everything and you didn't have to pay a lot for it so ....ENJOY!
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with date I am sure others would of bid it up.. slowly working my way through a list of several error types very fun
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Note sure on this one as being a saddle strike. Mike has some information on his site:
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=SADDLE
Here is a quote I found interesting:

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Head-to-Base Orientation

Definition: A saddle strike occurs when a planchet or coin receives two simultaneous off-center strikes by two adjacent die pairs.

While most saddle strikes show a head-to-head orientation of the two obverse designs, other orientations have been observed. A head-to-base orientation is common in the early to mid-1970s, but does occur sporadically in other years.


I noticed your coin was not exactly head to base? But Mike would know more about this. Maybe they rotate the dies. If not them it might be a double struck example.
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Coop, unsure but this slabbed example of almost the same coin kind of has it labeled as saddle double struck

http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Date-PCG...AOSw9r1V8rDF
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Yours shows the reverse devices a lot better. Probably an indent on that one on the reverse. (uniface)
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I see that now.. yeah it does
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Both of the nickels discussed in this thread are saddle strikes. In a saddle strike the two strikes are delivered simultaneously, instead of sequentially. I have no problem classifying them as double strikes, although others would demur.
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thank mike
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Buddy....dated saddle strikes are pretty scarce based on the normal orientation of the dies having the dates away from each other. Better chance on getting a date on one of the strikes with earlier dates in which the dies were closer together. Later dates had the dies positioned further apart. I will post some images when I get a chance. I have about 20 saddle strikes in both nickels and cents and only one of them is dated (1970-D Cent).
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I just learned something about saddle strikes. That's good! I guess two die pars broad strike it kind of?
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You may find this article informative:

http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-co...-design.html
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Is the best way to find major errors like this to buy bags of coins from the mint?
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Used to be that way years ago. Since 2001 the coins co into bins and then to a rolling station that is to pick out the error coins and then send them back to be the mint.
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Attached are obverse and reverse images of a saddle strike cent that has a full date. Dated saddle strikes are scarce since the blank must be positioned in just the right place to accept the date from the obverse die while at the same time "catch" a portion of the other dies. Please note the close proximity of the dual dies which was consistent for coins struck from dual presses in the 70's and earlier.

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Please note the greater distance between these cent dies on the saddle struck images below. Due to the greater distance between the dies on dual presses after the seventies or so, I don't think it's even possible to have a saddle strike that is dated.
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