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Valued Member
United States
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Hey guys So a few days ago I saw a post on here with a fake pcgs Morgan dollar so this made me curious enough to check out my pcgs coins .. So I this is what I found that worried me a bit .. I've got this Barber dime in a pcgs slab , the coin is toned has plenty of luster and nothing at all looks strange about the coin but the slab is different than my other pcgs slabs in which I have a few different types of ... This coin isn't a key date coin or a super high grade coin , but the slab being the only one that was different in a few ways worried me ... I've really never heard of a fake common date bārber but maybe you guys can put my mind at ease anyway ... The hologram on the reverse of the slab is different than any of my others, and on the obverse on the right bottom Conor the pcgs that is made into the plastic is different ... Now I'm hoping that this is just me bring parinoid ....  The hologram is more reflective than my others and the coin on the hologram seems to reflect different.   This is what all my other pcgs coin holograms look like ...   These two photos are from the coin in question and the one below is what the rest of my pcgs slabs look like .. Notice the G is missing the lines that run side to side ...  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You need to post pictures of the entire slab, each TPG has used multiple generations of different slab and label styles over the years. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Post the certificate # so we can verify it, or do so yourself @ PCGS website
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Valued Member
 United States
305 Posts |
Well from what I've read all the fake pcgs slabs that are out there or the better part of them have a cert number that will check out .. It seems that the people making these are using a cert from a legit coin on several fake or lower grade coins of the same date / mm.. Just like the Morgan I mentioned it had a legit cert so just because a coin checks out on pcgs website doesn't mean you have the original coin that the cert was issued for .... After looking on ebay at several pcgs graded coins I'm pretty sure my coin is ok ... I don't have a lot of pcgs coins but out of what I have ( 12 or so) this coin in question was the only one with this type of hologram and the different pcgs logo on the obverse , but after I search ebay it seems that there are quit a few that look the same as mine ... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PCGS has not released details about their slab like NGC has. They have said that fake slabs will not stack with real ones though. I would try that.
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Valued Member
Spain
239 Posts |
Fake slabs will not stack with real ones? I can't believe that's their solution to this problem.
So when someone makes a fake that stacks, we're all fudged?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The multi color hologram that you are concerned with was issued by PCGS from NOV 2005 until sometime in 2010. The multi color hologram changes color with the tilt of the coin. You may be comparing a slab that was issues in 2005 to one that was issued in 2010 and the colors of the more recent hologram look a little more vibrant. The White Liberty hologram was used from 2010 until 2013.
It also appears that when PCGS changed to the White Liberty hologram in 2010, they created to the lines in the G of PCGS. If you also look at the 2015 slab, you will notice that the font has changed, but the lines in the G remain.
If you have a concern of a fake, post your coin and photos of the slab.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks slider23 that's really what I was looking for !! I bet your right by saying I'm comparing a older pcgs slab to newer slabs , I think I had read up on these fake coins and slabs so much that I had myself believing I had one ... I'm kind of laughting at myself but at the same time it bothers me that a person buying slabbed coins and trying to be careful has to worry about this none sense ... It really is a shame and untill recently after do a good bit of research I didn't know how bad it is! It's pretty scary and it's to the point now that you might have a real MS64 in a fake MS65 or 66 slab , where that grade point or two is the difference in hundreds if not thoundands !! All we can do is work on our grading skills and learn what we can about these fakes untill the TPG figure out a way to cut these things out !! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Need to see the whole label in a sharp focused photo, I can usually tell from looking at the typeset font used, not always as the counterfeiters are getting good at faking them too now.
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Valued Member
United States
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Very Interesting on the differences of the generations of the slabs. I have never looked so close on the slabs.
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Posted 10/26/2015 11:23 pm
