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Just Got A Wreath 1793 !

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 Posted 10/30/2015  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Panzadi--I agree I always look for that separation on the face in the lower grades. This one is a nice AG with problems as expected for the grade on rev ,but far better and more appealing than many others iv seen for the most part.I like that the legend is almost complete-. AG wreath coins usually are with numerous contact marks and scratches and very notable problems of the focal points -face ect,this ones free of that. Did u notice the rev die crack that clearly shows by the word America? Thank u for your kind input.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to have to stop looking at these threads. I appreciate your enthusiasm about early US copper, but your ego about it is getting annoying.

No offense intended.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Type coin---- u have offended me numerous times. It is my choice to freely write what I wish as long as I'm adding a coin I received and wanted to share. If your offended don't add your brainless points attack at me. U publicly insulted me a number of times. Please stop -or
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 Posted 10/30/2015  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will remove this Page today as this has become a angry fest for some to bicker and tell off like attitudes-lol. I only was putting a nice coin to show on the forum. For all those that wrote helpful opinions -I very much appreciate it--thank you.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anyone angry here, except maybe you.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No Bob, Typecoin has been telling me off about my posts--im getting tired of him. Typecoin macho --Ill basicly report you if I have a issue with u any more.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CartwheelCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind.
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If you ask for people's opinions you have to accept them. You don't have to agree with them but if you keep belittling their opinions you won't be getting many anymore.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cartwheel-- do some cartwheels for me --U R A Great Guy ! Yes I like them
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 Posted 10/30/2015  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I see this coin as a nice looking AG+ with some rev pitting. Its kinda over 200 years old. Let a coin have Character !
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 Posted 10/30/2015  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 0xDA71D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
732amran, I understand that you may like this coin and that this coin is "in good condition for its age" but the grading process should be as objective as possible. That being said, the coin's grade is representative of what the coin is, not what you want the coin to be.

You asked for a grade. We gave the coin a grade.

That being said, I think our main consensus here is AG Details. The coin is not market acceptable because of its cleaning, damage and porosity. In problem coin grading, there is no such thing as AG+, etc.

However, do notice that the coin's value (especially when the coin is not problem-free or "market acceptable" and thus should not be traded sight-unseen) is determined by the eye appeal. One AG details can be sold for more than twice another AG details. In this case, your coin may lie on the higher end in terms of price if you do a statistical analysis of all coins in AG details.

But this is outside of what you wanted. You wanted a grade opinion.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oxda71d. That is a better explained. Wreath, chain, Liberty cap 1793 coins and R6 and up coins--in Poor Fair and AG can be expensive $500 -to $5000. So the lower numerical grade numbers suddenly can be critical as for surface conditions and that's very interesting--as each coin carry's its own value. I still think this wreath $1000 was a good price. Not going to find any other wreath in the price range looking like this.-- Thank u for your input.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 0xDA71D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think what you paid for it is average retail price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1793-Wreath...047675.l2557
This coin is comparable if not better than yours and it has sold for only $900.
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There are PCGS and NGC Fine details coins hammering at less than 1K on Heritage recently.
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It's a type coin (no pun intended), not a showcase piece. Even in this condition it is valuable and scarce. Sure, it's a complete wreck, but the key elements of the design are intact. I would put it at Fair, a notch above basal state; corrosion, severe pitting and porosity, major damage, cleaned, but the most important thing is that it is identifiable as to type. (This coin will still grade basal or Fair even if the date is completely gone.)

I wouldn't slab it; stick it in an envelope and put it in with your other early coppers. It can't get any more abused, but the value can only go up.

To be completely honest, I'd gladly have one in my collection in this condition, since in anything that modern collectors consider "acceptable" condition the coin becomes a mid-four-figure bank vault resident, more suitable for bragging rights than for showing someone what people were using to pay for things in the early 1790s.
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