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i am looking for any and all info asto if the 1964 specimen dollars were ever issued in their own singular red case. I found this coin and need any and all info on if the coin is a specimen and if its case is an original case from the mint.  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***Feel free to call me Will.
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sadly I know nothing except that is beutiful
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yes it is, and the case looks old enough to be the original issue case, after comparing to pl strikes I believe the coin is in fact a specimen. if only I could find any record of these cases.
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May be authentic but just to note that in 1977 Silver Jubilee silver dollars were issued in various cases, one was a maroon leather case bearing the Coat of Arms.
I wasn't aware that SDs were issued singularly prior to 1971 but it's certainly possible -- although t would seem odd given complete sets seemed to be the norm in that era.
Nice looking coin regardless!
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ah yes but those were different types of cases, I believe the fact that this was a commemorative coin that they sold them individually. this is likely why there are many more sp examples of these dollars than the other denominations for the year. they did the same for the dollars and medallions of 1939 which was another commemorative year.
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here is a thread with the same kind of label, the people in the thread state that it is older. this also leads me to believe that the case was from an older collection from when these labels were popular. I have some coins in older holders with these same kind of labels as well.
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Feel free to call me Will.
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Thanks. Any other people who can tell me anything? I know its only been a couple hours but I am getting desperate for any info.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Yes the label makers used to be very common, that was the only means to make labels. I'd guess the odd one is still kicking around at yard sales as well. Dollarman, is there a black plastic holder inside the case, like this? If so, that puts the likelihood of the coin placed in a case of a later year. http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTg1WDc1M...xkc/$_35.jpgSomething else to think about -- in 1964 there was no such thing as "Proof coins" but looking back at my father's notes, I think it was common to refer to mint uncirculated sets as "proof". Makes sense when you think about it -- the terminology of Proof-Like was probably created later, after RCM began selling coins referred to as Proof. The cart cannot go before the horse, Assuming you don't know the origin of this 1964 SD, it may be possible at some point it was taken from a PL set and simply boxed in an available case - perhaps because the year 1964 had special meaning? Just tossing out alternatives........ Also, as I recall there are some members who can tell the difference between MS, PL or SP so if you own the coin, a close up pic might help identify what type it is? |
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The coat of arms on the case barely resembles the real thing.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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The coin is inn an indented area with a piece of fabric you pull to lift it out, it is shown in the pic, there were proofs in 1964 but they were called specimens. The specimens seem to be called proofs often both back then and currently because all though they are specimen strikes(different form pl Coins) the 1964-67 specimens get called proofs by the US tpgs.
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i don't believe the coins were sold in that case. in 1964 they were sold in the standard philofilm package. the mint also sold the dollar by itself sealed in philofilm, it was available at the mint tours, to be bought as a single or as a set. The case you have it in now, I believe came from the 70's-80's, thats when the dollar coins came in their own case..I can't find that particular case, maybe it was used for a gold coin or something else, before the 1964 dollar found it's way to it..
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I am talking about specimens, not PL strike pieces.
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Now are we talking about the actual red case,..?. or the little black and red add on labels.. because we are looking at 2 different items here.
The add-on sticky labels (in black 1964 and in red proof dollar) were hand made for all types of applications.
These were added on after the fact and definitely not placed on by the mint.
The case looks good..( I'm no expert on the fact of the case being original or not) ..but those stickies would have to come off..
..and it might be tricky and damage the red leather underneath...but that stuff has got to come off..
BTW..The dollar looks fantastic....What are the dimensions of that red case..?
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so would you say that the case is likely an original case for the coin, I believe the coin is a sp strike and that the case was original to it.
Feel free to call me Will.
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