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..What are the dimensions of that red case..? ... |
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Look at the coat of arms on that case. It's phoney. It's an aftermarket case.
The coin is a PL coin, the reverse does not have the strike quality of a specimen.
The coin has been gently rubbed with steel wool, it's worth bullion value.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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would you say that the case is likely an original case for the coin, I believe the coin is a sp strike and that the case was original to it.
It's unusual that in 1964 a clamshell case was original because the 1967 the Centennial Sets were issued in a case with a shoddy latch-type button. it's also very unusual that no online record exists of other singular 1964 SD in a maroon case or otherwise ever being issued. If you are thinking of purchasing this item, if it were me I'd be highly sceptical if the seller can't provide any history. A clamshell case with a handpunched label stuck to it provides absolutely no guarantee of authenticity that the coin is proof or specimen. Furthermore, it may be possible the seller chose a maroon case in attempting to make a false association to this commemorative gold coin: http://www.mint.ca/store/coins/125-....Vjaaj3pfOrXGood luck, I hope you have good reason to believe what you believe -- but then you might ask yourself why you're asking questions? |
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Hi thedollarman
one thing I do know
is that that case has
Ontario`s coat of arms
pretty neat !! imo
i`d buy it
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That's not Ontario's coat of arms.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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thanks DBM
I stand corrected
it is Canadas
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I'm not sure if this is a proper case for this coin but from the picture of the shield on the case it appears to be a kings crown and not the Queens crown.
There doesn't seem to much care taken in the design of the shield so the above fact may mean nothing.
Personally to me it looks like a prooflike coin.
Cheers, Bill
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I agree, the Canadian shield with only the bizarre attached crown seems completely off, far too simplistic, amateurish. 1964 wasn't exactly yesterday but neither was it in the dark ages with use of potato stamps..... 1967 case - example Coat of Arms: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1967-Canadia...em35f01a1336 |
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Years ago I bought 2 1953 Silver dollars in those exact cases at a London England coin show. Both of the dollars were graded as SP65 and SP64 later on. The fellow I bought the coins from said the coins came in those cases from the time ( 1953 ) and the coins were purchased from Spinks coin department that year. This would seem to be one of two things then. Either the coin cases are Spink issue or RCM. As DBM stated they do not seem to be of genuine RCM quality. Spinks did over many years make private cases for various single coins and sets especially Maundy sets . Also the coin listed which just sold is in my opinion NOT a Specimen but a PL coin toned. If you wish to see a true 1964 Specimen Silver Dollar see our ebay listing 201456134816 . The comparison to a PL is night and day. High square dentils , sharper lettering and no shoulder roughness separate the Sp and PL coins. Specimen 1964 Dollars are scarce but not rare. Gems in SP 66 or better are elusive and seldom are offered. Our 1964 Specimen came from a very serious Silver Dollar collectors holdings and was a presentation piece that came from an Ottawa estate over 40 years ago. Hope this helps dollarman. Edited by Pacificoin
11/01/2015 10:19 pm
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Amazing, it was even listed on ebay as Proof....but seems a case of no proof to me! |
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Thank you for your help and information everybody and please don't think I disagree with you or have no respect for your opinions. When I found the auction it just seemed like something special and I thought it had potential. I know that the coin is cleaned or at least wiped. I thought it was a specimen cause it just seemed to have a better strike and fuller high areas than the pl Coins so it only made sense to me that it was an original cased specimen dollar. I am glad I asked here because you guys definitely know what you are talking about. Knowing a little history about the case and knowing that it is in fact as old as the coin is cool and I am glad I have a lead as to where it came from.
O did buy the coin and I know the coin will probably look bad under the colors but I am happy. The case and its history alone were worth it.
Feel free to call me Will.
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I have re-read everything on this post so where did we come up to believe that this case is original to a speciman 1964 dollar coin, I can find nothing in my books to prove this ever existed. ?
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That's why I asked, I could find no info and was hoping it was since I have found record of an unlisted full set from 1964 on icollector.
Feel free to call me Will.
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I'm just going to say this because I feel I must. It's one thing to buy a coin on ebay essentially sight unseen based on blurry far off pics, gambling that it's worth or better the price --- but it's entirely another to blindly believe it must be so before even having in hand what's been bought, while totally ignoring various red flags. It's the later type of people who scammers prey upon....... |
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