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Valued Member
United States
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There is a B on the front and a D or O on the back. 
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Moderator
 United States
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the cent just like it was hit, PMD
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I thought it might be RPM, but I quickly checked and did not find a match. Perhaps a more careful search?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is a contact mark that made an indention on the coin that makes the metal raise around it. Just damage.
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Valued Member
 United States
177 Posts |
I love this site but it seems that there's a quickness to debunk anything posted here. Is this the case? This coin has a clear letter in each side and it's called damage. I've taken coins called damaged here to a specialist in person and told it's a double die. Idk what to believe.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I've taken coins called damaged here to a specialist in person and told it's a double die. Ask the specialist to buy them!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1. We like discoveries and finds. We wish yours was something great but its not. How and where in the minting process do you imagine this kind of error occuring? The minting process is known well enough to rule this out of possibility as an error . 2. Seems kind of strange that the coin you were told was damaged here was later verified as an expert as a doubled die. What kind of damage did they say it was here? What kind of error were you thinking it was? Who was your specialist? We would of told you it was not actual die doubling but one of the other types if you asked about that. If not, the fact its a doubled die or not doesn't matter because it would still be damaged. Can we please see the coins in question or a link? If you asked here it'll be easy to find your old threads where you asked about these other coins..
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: a quickness to debunk anything posted here. Is this the case? Well..yes and no! I have seen instances - even happening to me - where I thought that a damage opinion was given a little too quickly and seemingly without trying to think through other possibilities or even to think through how the damage might have happened. A damage opinion is harder to believe and understand when it is given without any explanation whatsoever. I do think that the opinions you have received on this coin are considered. More importantly, they have been explained. I have only been participating in this forum a little over 2 1/2 years and have found many knowledgeable and helpful people here. Sometimes I have found it difficult to clear my mind and listen to what they are saying, but when I can do that, I see that knowledge and arrive at a better understanding. When a coin is hit by some object, most of the time, metal is raised as a result. The name for that raised metal is a "pressure ridge". I think that is what you are seeing on this coin.
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Valued Member
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I wasn't referring to this coin as being double die, just speaking in general. I can't explain it and so I present it here as well as to share its rarity.
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Pillar of the Community
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It was damaged after it left the mint. PSD.
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Bedrock of the Community
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One of the first questions I ask myself on a coin this this: What in the minting process could have created this anomaly? Having knowledge of how die are created, knowing what thing can happen during the striking process, and what can happen after the coin is struck helps a lot. If the area in question that we might think is a something is smaller/larger than any device on the coin, then it is just our eye tricking us into seeing something that is not there. A lot of coins we have posted here we all damaged after the strike. We try to figure out how that happened. On your coin, it may have spent a time in a parking lot and a stone made the indent on that area. But note I mentioned indent? If it were something on the die the area would be raised, (the die is the negative) and be the same size as other devices. If it is not, then it did not occur during the mint process. Thus we determine it as PSD (Post Strike Damage) or PMD (Post Mint Damage). Many times we will get questions about something that looks like a letter and it is level with the fields. This could not be a strike issue as it is not raised. (Incuse on the die, leave a raised area on a coin) So we are asked the same questions over and over, but try to explain them as best as we can. (we can't follow around each coin during it's life, so we have to give out opinion) Thing happen to coins. Some are experimented with to make an error. What happens when they can't create the error they want to make? They spend the coin. Someone else finds it and runs with it. So we are not making quick judgment, because we have seen a lot of the same things over and over. When someone asks a question that I don't know for sure, I may not answer it then. Sometimes I give it though and later come up with the correct answer. Sometimes we are wrong and other experts are called in to help. So if I don't know, I don't answer. I may need to look up more information to ID a variety. But I take the time to give the best answer I can give.
Edited by coop 11/05/2015 11:45 am
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Valued Member
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What I'm seeing is like this coin for an example. The front is missing a layer, it's not smashed or torn off. The back is intact but worn and so thin that it's warped. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I do not understand what you are asking  That is a picture of a typical off-center strike, there is no "missing layer".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know you didn't say this ones a doubled die. I am talking about the coin you said was called damaged here but then a specialist you took it to said it was a doubled die. You were very specific in that claim. Now you say you just meant it in general? I'm confused.
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Pillar of the Community
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I thick the hot grease makes a lasting impression sometimes...........
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