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1910-S Lincoln Cent Graded By Ntc...

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Hey guys

So I've been kind of half way working on a LWC set for some time now , I've put my efforts/ funds into series I enjoy more but I do pick up one from time to time ...
I needed this date and purchased it for around 7 bucks , it's graded by everyone's favorite NTC .. JK
When it arrived this morning I grabbed my ANA book and thought I'd see how NTC done on this one ...
Well after a few minutes I had arrived at the grade I thought and said to myself ( yep overgraded ) but then a bit later today I was on ebay and for curiosity's sake I searched out LWC in the grade that NTC deemed this coin to be ...
To my suprize almost every one I came across in various TPG slabs looked like my 1910S detail wise and would have been overgraded if going by my ANA grading standards ...

Any thought on this ?
Also what would you guys grade it ?

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Wasn't able to capture it In the photos but the top wheat lines are full on both stalks !

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I'm going to go with a no problem F-12 , TPG might say F-15.
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I just realized I should have posted in the modern forum !! Sorry:)
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 Posted 11/06/2015  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to say it was graded VF25. The wheat stalks are fairly complete and bowtie looks complete
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Coin doesn't look natural to me.. I would think it merrits a details grade..
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F12
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 Posted 11/07/2015  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replying everyone !

The coin is graded VF-20 by NTC...
I thought the coin might have made F-15 going by ANA standards...
I think anything that might be making the coin look off would just be a result of my poor photo skills !
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At least Thad and I were on the same page with this Lincoln. If that coin is a VF-20 Then I've got some dynamite Wheaties in my collection.
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F-12, no more. Cheek to jaw look smooth as [insert favorite simile here]. Any one else suspicious of an earlier cleaning?
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F-12 tops, if that. Does look s bit funky.
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That's one thing I aways thought didn't make sense with low grade circulated coins ..
For a coin to circulate down to Vg- Fine I'm sure it's seen several things that's would qualify as a cleaning . Unless you got a obvious dipped in copper cleaner VG8 or it's covered in hairlines from being cleaned with a wire brush then you don't know whether that coins been threw a wash machine 15 time , layed on the side walk in the rain a few weeks or really what that coin has or hasn't seen ...
So in my opinion on these types of coins it would be crazy to think you had one that hadn't seen some form of cleaning ...

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Any one else suspicious of an earlier cleaning?


Yes, very much...the color and patina are a bit odd, probably from an old cleaning.
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Coinguy - strongly disagree if I understand what you are saying. An original, uncleaned early LWC is just dead obvious.

It may have problems, but not the basic natural color of its surfaces. An original coin hardly needs a second look.



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An un-cleaned coin doesn't look like this one does.. I stand behind it getting a details grade for cleaning
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