Is There A Way To Tell On A Dateless Standing Liberty Quarter / SLQ If It's A 1918/17? - Page 2

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Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5675 Posts	Posted 10/27/2018 11:58 pm This raises an interesting conundrum. What if the worn Seated Liberty dime above showed a CC mintmark? Or if you had a well worn SLQ that you could prove was a 1916 using this method? Is there any value to a coin that is truly dateless, but you could prove is a rare date with this method? Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189340 Posts	Posted 10/28/2018 01:13 am to the Community, davidb! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 10:07 am Quote: Is there any value to a coin that is truly dateless, but you could prove is a rare date with this method? Yes, but for a 1916 SLQ you wouldn't use this method because it can be identified by other non-damaging methods. But look at dateless Buffalo nickels that have their dates restored. Key dates for those do have value. Not a lot, but maybe 25% of the AG value. Report this Post to the Staff
ty88ty2 Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 10:20 am Quote: Folks, I know I am a few years late and a dateless SLQ short, but I am here to tell you it CAN be done... and I took pictures to prove it! Every forum thread on the subject of revealing dates on slicked silvers seem to say the same thing... no, it can't be done... so, hopefully, these pictures can change that. All you need to do is drop a little silver testing acid on the date area, wait 30 seconds (over a plugged sink), rinse quickly and snap a pic. Be quick... the results don't last long unless you wet the coin again. Before and after pics for disbelievers: I have been looking for this post for a long time... Thank you davidb and Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 3:53 pm Looking at the restored Buffalo nickels from a different angle. If someone is building a set and wants to buy a low grade filler of one of the key dates , they should be cautious. Restored dates don't always have to be in the form of a shiny patch around the date. The 1914-D in my set is one that I restored myself and if I posted an average so so photo on ebay there is a chance it could go for an unrestored coin. Report this Post to the Staff
1796NoPole Valued Member United States 286 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 9:27 pm davidb: that is extremely fascinating! You need to post that Seated in the lowball glory thread - that is absolutely the greatest dateable lowball I've ever seen, a true problem-free basal state-0 grade. It is so bad it could actually be worth a significant premium to the right buyer, probably a registry builder. Of course, that's assuming the coin is a blank due to honest wear and not damage. Edited by 1796NoPole 10/30/2018 9:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5675 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 10:25 pm Quote: But look at dateless Buffalo nickels that have their dates restored. Key dates for those do have value. But I think this is different from a restored Buffalo, since once you acid restore a dateless Buffalo, you can always see the date. As I understand this method, the coin becomes dateless again after it dries, so it no longer looks like a key date. Report this Post to the Staff
ty88ty2 Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 11:13 pm Quote: As I understand this method, the coin becomes dateless again after it dries, so it no longer looks like a key date. As I understood, it is just almost impossible to see without the coin being wet. So if you were to wet the coin again that dried out, you would be able to see the details again. Personally, I'll take that vs a permanently dateless SLQ any day. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 10/31/2018 11:21 am I would try some different dilutions of the solution. You can probably hit on one that will allow more selective etching of the silver which would allow the date to be seen when dry. It will change the amount of time required to bring out the date though. You note he says it only takes 30 seconds. It is probably attacking the entire surface very quickly and there is very little differentiation between the date and surrounding areas. That's why it needs to be wet to see. I'm thinking a more diluted solution may give it more time allowing the etching to proceed to a greater extent on the softer areas and allow them to be more visible. Report this Post to the Staff
mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 03:43 am How would a TPG respond to an alleged 1916 sent to them for grading if this discussed method was the only way that the date could be ascertained? In the end if the TPG validates the existence of a 1916, would they even slab a coin that would appear dateless in a slab? Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 07:31 am Where can you buy Nitric Acid ? Amazon; E-bay ? Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5675 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 08:15 am Just google "silver test acid", Amazon has it. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 5:13 pm Quote: In the end if the TPG validates the existence of a 1916, would they even slab a coin that would appear dateless in a slab? They will slab dateless 1916 SLQ because they can be identified as such even without the date. Report this Post to the Staff
coinquest1961 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 12/04/2018 8:06 pm 55 or 60 years ago date restorer was sold for dateless SL quarters, packaged the same way and sold by the same company that sold the nickel date restorer. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 12/05/2018 09:25 am I'm glad someone else besides me remembers the date restorer for silver coins. Report this Post to the Staff
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Is There A Way To Tell On A Dateless SLQ If It's A 1918/17?