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I agree with C-Varieties scarcity scale and also that the DP#4 is often misattributed. Stuff that is Above XF-40 and abovedemand prices that are much more in line with Trends ... they are much harder to find.
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Good luck finding a nice TRUE DP9-4.
Charlton butchered that variety with a terrible picture that they keep recycling year after year (the one where crud hides the 5/5), Here is a nice example of the 5 over 5..showing well. The ICCS early cert called it a DP #1 but it's the DP #4. ..but at a very late stage,..and that die crack also shows so well.. The late stage die bulge at the 9 is also well documented.. The 5's do show very well ..but the photos are also quite old.. ______________________________________________________ Now CV if you were going to list this DP 9 #4 cent on your ebay site... How much would you be listing this very CH MS DP9 #4 for..?..and how would you describe it "if it was yours to sell"..? ______________________________________________________    Even on this CH MS #4 ..the beads around the lower part were flattened by Die Deterioration..  . . Edited by DEVLEC
11/11/2015 10:04 am
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The photos that we put in for the 20111 Charlton variety section were great to start with, but they took the color photos and not only made them black & white, but weakened/lightened them appreciably so they used less ink and were able to copy better. I think that the one in the front of the book now is different.
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A few more of the DP9 #4 showing the 5 over 5 in crisper detail..(again..older photos..) ..also take note that the above posted photo shows the very advanced die crack going through the rim and a raised piece into the collar. Any wear would have quickly made that flat..so it won't be seen on lower grades of this variety.... Hope that this helps in the hunt for the elusive #4 because the pics in my 2011 Charlton only show a lot of crud in the 5.. ..and there's no way to know that there is actually a 5/5 in that variety when using the 2011 book.   . . Edited by DEVLEC
11/11/2015 4:43 pm
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DEVLEC...I can't remember if yours is a MS63 or MS64, either way, a reasonable listing would be $10-$15,000.
Of course, I would probably list it for something ridiculous like $25,000 but that's just me :)
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Of course, I would probably list it for something ridiculous like $25,000 but that's just me :) CV...Thank you for the response..and also for that nice and appreciated bit of humor here.. We need that more often...!! . . . Edited by DEVLEC
11/12/2015 08:35 am
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How about this 5/5 ? ==  |
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If you post full obv and rev pics,..we could try to ID it for you..
..and then have more info for you about the 5/5..
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I'll take pics of the other 5/5; but I found this one today and really like it a lot; haven't gone through the Haxby catalog yet. ==  ==  ==  ==  == here are full coin pics ==  ==  Edited by techwriter
11/13/2015 4:07 pm
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What,s really needed is a full picture of the coin obv. and rev. Then the close pictures.
It just make it easier to ID.
Cheers, Bill
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This is the only obverse marker I found on the initial 5/5 that I posted. Looks like obverse 45a but maybe it's an early 80a. I'll try for full photos soon as I get my scope and computer re-adjusted. Sorry. ==  == full pictures ==  ==  Edited by techwriter
11/13/2015 4:17 pm
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Posted full size photos of the 5/5 and other; have to put the "toys" away for a few days -- curious grandchild coming for a visit.  |
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...the 20111 Charlton variety section... I'm into varieties in general but am still in need for additional Canadian data: paper books and/or on-line resources which are best known for pricing along with color descriptive photos. Any help here would be appreciated. thx, mdpmedia |
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If you are going to colect Victoria Large Cents, copies of the 4 volume set of Rob Turner's books are the place to start to understand it all. Start with the first one, the Provincial large cents. This gives a complete history of how things started for Canada coinage, a complete breakdown of the manufacturing.minting proicess then, and the die hierarchy system on how dies were made and what caused the varieties. Ten, there is a complete die track, with markers for each 1858 Obv & Rev. You can probably shp the Provincial addendum with the 1859/8's and the die tracking section there until you have the other two .. Dies and diadems for a look at a complete overview of all the Vicky obv types and Revs. It also gives a complete rundown of all the 1891 working dies. Then there is the 1890 & 1892 book that gives all the working dies for 90's & 91. There will be one coming out with the 93's 94's & 98's ... and I hope something by another friend with all of the Obv 1 type dates (76-86). For Prices go to the Coins and Canada site or look for what you want in the completed and "sold for" ebay auctions. Just set up your search parameters for the dates/types that you want. |
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Building on Doug's comment, sometimes the rarest are not the sexiest, or most popular. Having done the 1858 die catalog, I can say that some very plain dies produced some rare coins. I suspect the same is true in 1859.
As for the DP4, for years there were two different coins in PCGS DP2 holders at 64 Red. I think they have now been moved to DP4 holders.
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11/25/2015 2:39 pm
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