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1965 No VDB Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 01/21/2008  10:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add honestabe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can't find the VDB on this coin. Probably due to Grease Filled Die or something.



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 Posted 01/21/2008  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the second image the die looks like it was highly over polished and may have wiped this device out by the over cleaning. All Cents after the first one over clean would probably show that through the life of the die.
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Ok, so they over cleaned the die at the mint and that wiped out the VDB. It is the only one I have found so far. I do see the marks in the picture and I was wondering about that myself. Look almost like die abrasion or gouge marks.
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I see three bright spots at K7, which is where the VDB should be. A close up od that area would make things as clear (as mud), but then maybe not. Maybe it is my imaginaton.
Dick
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Actually this is a case of an individual coin that was harshly cleaned, mainly on the lower half of the obverse. If you're the one who did that, I'd suggest you not do it again. If you ever do find a coin that has value, you'll ruin it with cleaning like that.

If you didn't do it, it's still there - very harsh chemical abrasive that scratched and discolored the coin.
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What is a good polish for cleaning coins. I don't polish coins often, but I would not want to ruin a valuable coin in my collection. I used Brasso on this one. I thought it was safe. And those three things that look like VDB letters, I examined them with a magnifying glass and they are not letters or even partial letters. I think the die was brushed down so much it rubbed off the VDB on the die, because those three spots do not resemble any letters whatsoever. I looked through a quite a few coins before I found this one without the VDB.
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There is no "safe" polish for coins. All polishes like brasso totally devalue coins.

There is a solution called "Goo-Gone", available at grocery stores and Wal Mart inthe cleaning aisle. It is an orange oil substance that will take grime off your coins without harming the metal...it also doesn't change the color of the coin.

Use it smartly, only when your coin has grime on it that keeps you from identifying things otherwise. Dab with a q-tip or brush lightly with a very soft bristle toothbrush. do NOT scrub the coin, and change q-tips often. Dirt on the q-tip or toothbrush will scratch the coin.

Leave the brasso and other polishes for the door knobs. They do nothing to coins but ruin them.
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I agree with CC , you can easily see that this coin was abrasively cleaned in the area in question.
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There are several years touted to have no VDB; 55, 73, and 89. I check for them regularly when I go through coins. It takes a good eye and a microscope to see that nearly all coins allegedly missing the VDB originally had VDB on them.

I have dozens of 73's and 55's that "LOOK" like they have no VDB; until I turn them in bright light under a microscope and dont delude myself "them little bumps" are anything but once, VDB.

Jim


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