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 Posted 01/21/2008  3:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Alcochaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was asked in the JFK thread to share some of the same sort of info on the Ike dollars. Yes they STILL can be had from the Fed, at least the Chicago bank. You have to find a bank that gets coins from the FRB. NF String rolls are a good indication for this. Brinks and most other armored carriers don't want to mess with IKEs, and send them to the FED instead of re rolling them when they get them. Getting anyone to order them can be a pain. The weight and size of these coins is a big negative for armored carriers. It may take some serious buttering, and education of your local bank to get these coins.

40% SILVER can be found in them. S mint Uncirc and Proof. Like the Halves, coins intended for collectors slip in, and since the Ikes are not heavily searched they show up more readily. Clad proof Ikes show too.

Ikes are a much shorter series. So the varieties are often counted in the total list.

You can bone up on 1972 Philly types here.
http://www.supercoin.com/iketypes/

The 1976 Ikes are easier.
The type one (also called the "1975 Ike") has a bolder font on back. The R leg is funny
The Type two has a more delicate font. The R leg is curved.

Because this list is so short. I will list each coin and my observations.

1971 Subject to heavy hoarding and bad strikes
1971 D Subject to heavy hoarding and bad strikes
1972 Type I
1972 Type II KEY, Rare coin made from one Die
1972 Type III SEMI Key, Made from HARDER Die steel at end of year
1972 D
1973 KEY, Mint Set Coin
1973 D KEY, Mint Set Coin
1974
1974 D
1976 (1975) Type I SEMI KEY, Much lower mintage then the D coin
1976 (1975) Type I D
1976 Type II
1976 Type II D
1977 SEMI KEY, Lowest circulation mintage.
1977 D
1978
1978 D

The Rest show up commonly. The Most common are the 1972 Type 1, 1972 D, and the 1976 Type II issues. The rest fall in behind the others equally. I personally have problems finding 1977Ds, more so then their mintage should suggest.

The Clad proof and silver issues can and do show up in Fed Boxes. The only caveat is the large empty fields on the obverse are easily scratched up. Good thing Ikes circulate even less them halves.

Now don't bet the farm on this. But should someone spend a peace or Morgan dollar and it manage not to be nabbed by a bank employee, Theoretically they would get wrapped with ikes and sent back out in boxes. The Treasury is really NOT wanting to eat the reverse seignorage on any coin, this is why the Ikes are still available.
In reality, most spent 90% dollars are grabbed before making it back to the fed. I DO know of people who have found them in circulation

I have been told that spent eagle coins (old or new) are culled and sent to the treasury's Bullion program to be melted and remade. But I am wandering off topic

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 Posted 01/21/2008  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add debs728 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link. I didn't even know that there were different relief's on the Ike dollars. I only have 5 of them, 1971, 72, 74, 77 and 78 and they are all D's.
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 Posted 01/21/2008  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great thread!

I have often wondered whether the IKES could still be ordered, because they are so cheap to buy in bulk on ebay (typically less than $1.50 per coin). This had me thinking there must be a source somewhere. Now, if you are able to get them from the Fed, through your bank, maybe you ought to buy $1000 worth, keep the few you want/need and then sell the rest on ebay for profit. Maybe I will try to get some from the bank/Fed and see what happens.
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 Posted 01/21/2008  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky_13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info on the Ikes Alcochaser.

mycrob...Ikes for bulk on ebay? Lemme at 'em, Lemme at 'em

I seriously need to start posting in the want section ...real soon!
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 Posted 01/21/2008  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great thread with lots of good information. Thanks! I'll ask about getting on of those boxes next time I'm in the bank. They already think I'm a little nuts ordering halves so I might as well confirm their suspicions.

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 Posted 01/21/2008  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alcochaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to add information on the San Fransisco minted IKEs

1971-S Silver Uncirculated (Blue OGP Envelope)
1971-S Silver Proof (Brown OGP box)
1972-S Silver Uncirculated (Blue OGP Envelope)
1972-S Silver Proof (Brown OGP box)
1973-S Silver Uncirculated (Blue OGP Envelope)
1973-S Silver Proof (Brown OGP box)
1973-S Clad Proof (1973 Proof Set)
1974-S Silver Uncirculated (Blue OGP Envelope)
1974-S Silver Proof (Brown OGP box)
1974-S Clad Proof (Proof Set)
1976-S Type 1 Silver Uncirculated (Two package types, Same coins)
1976-S Type 1 Silver Proof (3 Coin set, in special holder)
1976-S (1975) Type 1 Clad Proof (1975 Proof Set)
1976-S Type 2 Clad Proof (1976 Proof Set)
1977-S Clad Proof (1977 Proof Set)
1978-S Clad Proof (1978 Proof Set)

Many People add these two to any set.... Up to you.
1990-W Eisenhower Commemorative, Uncirc
1990-P Eisenhower Commemorative, Proof

None of these are hard to find, but the series suffers several problems.
1971 coins suffer strike and at mint handling problems.
1971 to 1974 silver proofs have clouding or blue tint from problems with the washing process.

Some Notes
The 1973 Silver Proof is just over 1 million minted. These are the most expensive Ike If there is a "key" to these. It is these.
1976 silver coins ONLY come in Type 1 variety.
The Mint DESTROYED a lot of the 1976 silver coins in 1982 when they did not sell.
1978 Proof coins are easy to find in good shape, the Mint was really getting a handle on these.

You can find these in ike rolls, easy to spot them, any S mint you want. The side of the coins is so thick its easy to spot the Copper Nickel Clads from the Silver Clads....

Also possibly found in Fed ike rolls, is the odd 90% Dollar modern commemorative. Same size. And I have seen crazier things spent.
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01/21/2008 8:17 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2008  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karrlot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How would you knowif a bank got coins from the FRB or not? Would you just call and ask?
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 Posted 01/22/2008  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
karrlot,
I have called and ordered boxes of halves several times now. It's easier and I feel less embarrassed. I found out more about how it works at my bank (Wells Fargo) when the last shipment failed to show up as scheduled. It turns out that they have a "central distribution center" that they draw the bulk of their coins from. It probably is where all the loose coins that get turned in by customers get sent for rolling and bagging. They get deliveries a couple times a week. If they run out of something at this center, then they order it from the Fed. At least that's how the manager explained it to me.

Call and ask. After all, it's your money you can ask for it in whatever denomination you like.

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01/22/2008 12:14 am
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 Posted 01/22/2008  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, hey now, I would love to go get 10,000 in silver dollars from the bank for face value! Seriously, do you think any banks still are holding silver dollars?

I believe there are at least three ways these coins come to my bank. First way is that when coins come in from customers, all the bank branches for that bank send them to one central vault for the bank downtown, where they count, sort and re-roll and then send back to the individual banks. If they have too much of something or there is no interest (like halves), they ship them off to the Fed Reserve. I just missed scoring a big hoard of half dollars- they had some $500 of customer-wrapped and they had sent it out just two days before I showed up. BUMMER.

The second way to get them is from the Federal Reserve directly.

The third way is to get them from Armored car companies like Wells Fargo or Loomis. I don't know if those come from directly from the Fed or from other banks.

If someone else has a working knowledge of this, please share, as I would love to know more about this process, as it could have an impact on what kind of mixture you get. I am certain about the first method, as the bank manager explained it to me and then I got confirmation from a teller from a different branch. But maybe not all banks have a "central clearing house" in town.
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 Posted 01/22/2008  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thomas_z71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone know what the bank fee would be to get Ike's ordered? Couldn't you just pay the fee yourself as long as it's a minimal fee? You would definitly make it back on selling them on ebay, even if you don't find any silvers.
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 Posted 01/22/2008  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't think they usually charged fees for ordering coins at the bank. Now every once in awhile over the years of roll searching, I would get a teller that would want to charge me 10 cents a roll when they had the rolls right there. Can you believe it? Everytime it happened, I walked right out empty-handed and went to another bank.
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Mine don't charge, but I've never asked for Ikes....I'm wondering if they say no to people b/c of the fees, if you can just take the fees out of your account to get them. They go for a premium on ebay even for just plain ones so one would think you would at least make those fees back?
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Hmmm. I've never asked about getting Ikes at the bank. I just run across them, but I like them very, very much. I think they'll be HOT in several years.

Tomorrow, I'll stroll downtown and hit a few banks. See what they got to say.

The possibility of getting Morgans, Peace dollars is quite exciting and pretty much eclipses those 40% Kennedy's you get in half boxes. Gosh, Just getting one morgan or peace would give you $12-$15 - almost pays for the roll!!
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I don't have any problems ordering halves from my bank and have done it several times. This thread perked my interest so today I asked the head teller about odering Ike's. She got on the phone and called right in front of me inquiring about ordering Eisenhower dollar coins. I don't know if it was the Fed Reserve branch that services that bank, or who it was on the other end of the line, but the answer was that they have NONE. Kinda disappointing after thinking maybe I could get a box of Ike's and maybe find a Morgan!
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 Posted 01/22/2008  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alcochaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.frbservices.org/files/re...rcular_2.pdf

The FED still lists them as available. But getting banks to deal with them is next to impossible!

The FED does say in the above that they are subject to availability.

IE, How many people turned them in!

I have gotten around $100 in IKEs that were located in Banks. But you have to search EXTRA EXTRA hard, and be lucky.

These people have to get them from somewhere.

http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...r&category0=
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01/23/2008 12:06 am
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Alco: I was wondering if you could describe in more detail for folks like me who know next to nothing about IKEs- what to look for in the Type I vs Type coins you mentioned- maybe post pictures of the differences? I would love to learn more about this. Thanks.
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01/24/2008 12:21 pm
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