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Protecting Copper From Verdigris

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Are coin tubes the best way to store copper to protect against verg? Obviously the environment has to be good too but will tubes protect better than paper rolls? Should I put the tubes in plastic bags with a silica gel packet before putting them in boxes? I thought I've heard Thad mention you should throw a loose sacrificial penny loose in the bag too. Is this true? Thanks!
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 Posted 11/19/2015  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BadThad always says the more layers (of protection), the better. While plastic is a better barrier than paper, putting rolls in a plastic bag (another layer) is going to be better than if they were left out. The desiccant and sacrificial coin are additional layers, as they will "absorb the attack" first.
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Thanks jbuck. For my common wheat cents I have them in paper rolls in a bank box. I put 2 silica packets in each bank box and taped them shut. Hopefully that will be OK long term. For any wheats older than 40s I'm planning to use the tubes and store them in the bags with the packet (inside boxes). I like collecting cents/nickels but it sucks how easily they can get verg!
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Amen. The packets are helpful, but the most important thing is to store your rolls in the least-humid environment possible - definitely not in the basement or crawl space under any circumstances.
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How do people in places like Florida keep their coins in good shape? It's so humid there that I don't think it would even be safe to store stuff on the main floor of a house!
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Also wondering that....

The main bummer is if you store your coins correctly, with the least chance of I troducing moisture then they all have to be sealed, and never opened to look at! Having a bankers box of wheats is cool, having one sealed shut for "long term" that you cant go through without compromising the humidity is a bummer.
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This is what I have done and had some success with it.
(In this case it has to deal with the pennies I horde)

Pennies rolled by date
rolls placed into a bankers box
bankers box placed into a large ziploc with dessicant pack
ziplock bags into a large bin that has a seal *

*(if you have a large rubber maid bin , but can't find one's with the airtight seal you can easily make one by taking some weather stripping and lining the top lid of your bin then camping the lid on shut)
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Thanks for all the tips guys. I like your method AgCoinAU. I have already placed the desiccant packs INSIDE my bankers boxes before I sealed them. Is that OK or do I need to unseal them and remove the packs? Or can I leave the box as it is, place it in a zip lock and add another pack? Thanks again..
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If you are going to store coins in tubes you are not going to look at individual coins all the often.
Provided that the tube is screw or pressed cap sealed properly, there shouldn't be a problem even in a steamy climate.
Just don't store any coin that looks a little suspect in a tube with obviously good coins.

Store your coin tubes in waterproof sealeble polyethylene kid's lunch boxes. A double layer of defense should be more than OK.
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It's no wonder we love this hobby.

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dessicant packs only absorb moisture/humidity so they're fine inside the boxes... I just don't seal the boxes because I'm super cheap... and every 3-5 months I dig out all my dessicant packs put them on a cookie sheet and into the oven for about 3 hours to dry them out again and back into the coin boxes they go...
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Sounds like a pain AGcoinAU but I don't blame you. After all the work to collect you want to protect your investment! I took your advice and found a weatherproof bin made by ziplock. It looks like it can hold 12 cent bank boxes! I think I'm going to put the rest of my better cents into plastic tubes and store them in the bin like you recommended. I don't want to risk them getting ruined especially after all the time I spent removing all coins with any traces of verdigris. Thanks again for the tips!
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