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1937 Buffalo Error Missing Y?

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Please take a look at this Buffalo coin that has a clump of metal where the Y in Liberty is located. I could not find anything on the internet about this error. Was it common for the Buffalo coins to have one off errors? Any extra value in this type of error?



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1937--Buffalo-Error-Missing-Y?

1937--Buffalo-Error-Missing-Y?
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 Posted 11/22/2015  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess it to be either a weak strike or there was something foreign on the planchet or die when it was struck...
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 Posted 11/22/2015  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find. First one I've seen like that.
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 Posted 11/22/2015  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea. The missing Y could be grease, and the extra metal could be a die chip, but I'm at a loss regarding how they occurred together.
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 Posted 11/23/2015  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fathead 5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might be a counterfeit; send it to NGC or PCGS for authentication.
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 Posted 11/23/2015  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And who exactly would fake a 1937 nickel?
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I don't think it is any of the above, I strongly believe that this Coin has had a well placed hit on the Y that displaced the metal and circulation then caused the displaced metal to flatten down over the remaining portion of the Y and create a "blob" appearance. In short, it is a damaged coin with a lower value then the same coin in the same grade. Sorry
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 11/23/2015  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, I see what you mean. It looks like most of the Y was folded upward (You can see the topmost tips of the letter) and then worn.
Sounds like a good explanation to me.
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 Posted 11/23/2015  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thedollarman beat me too it. That was going to be my explanation as well.
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I had considered the displaced metal theory, but I can not find a single scratch that should have been left behind in the area of the removed Y. The clump also looks like metal that has been heated.
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I would like to know what is going on with the coin and here are my options.

1) If the displaced metal theory is correct, the upper part nearest rim of the clump should not be attached to the coin. I could lift this area to prove it was displaced damage. The value of this coin is about 50 cents.

2) Send the coin into ANACS on the next free grading and find out if the coin comes back error or damage.
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I just couldn't help myself once I seen the comment ( who would fake a 1937 nickel? )
As this is what I myself though until I recently came across a website ( that I will not name ) that to my suprize had counterfeit common date Buffalo nickels along with several other fake coins ...
Now I really don't think this is at all the case with the coin In question here!
It's just you really wouldn't expect anyone to counterfeit a common date nickel but sure enough there are people that do !! Why ? Beats me !


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I suppose common coins are counterfeited... take Henning for example.
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I actually believe this buffalo simply has PMD. It looks like it had a very unlikely hit that pushed most of the metal in the "Y" upwards, which I think is evident by small traces of the Y remaining where it should be.
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 Posted 11/25/2015  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that has already been established.
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