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1964 Kennedy Half Dollar Rare Error (Only Two In Existence)

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I'm looking for information regarding an extremely rare error in a 1964 Kennedy half dollar. To my knowledge, only two are in existence and I cannot find any sources of it's existence. The half dollar is the roughly the size of a quarter. Since it is the size of a quarter, Kennedy's head is cut off at the top, but the "In God We Trust" and year are stamped clearly.

Could someone point me to any reference as to who possess one of the two, or the current market value of this coin?
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So what kind of error is it? Is it a half struck on a quarter planchet? Also Do you have one? if you do we could tell you more by seeing a picture of it. If you don't have one then why do you want to know who does? Why would you want to know of a value? Do you want to buy it? I mean I can think of a couple different things to make a half look like that. A really bad Dryer Coin may look like that. A struck on different planchet may look like that, A double straight clip might even look a bit like that
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To my understanding, and this is secondhand source, that year x amount of half dollars were needed. At the end of the printing, there wasn't enough of material and two were printed on quarter planchet. I do not own one, but I have seen photographs of it from all angles and it being compared to a normal half dollar. I do not have copies of the photos. I cannot find any information about this error anywhere and was hoping if anyone ever heard about it.
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http://minterrornews.com/priceguideoffmetal.html


Scroll down and you will see some listings for the 1964 Kennedy half struck on a quarter planchet along with the prices. The list is from 2011 and shows four different prices depending upon the condition of the coin. That makes me think that there were more than just two of them.

If you happen to have one of these and are interested in finding out about it, post a pic so you can get an opinion on the grade and value.
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This? http://www.ebay.com/itm/NGC-50c-196...AOSw37tWBvtf

Also, the mint wouldn't intentionally print the half on a quarter, especially not for just 2 coins. They make millions of them, if they ran out of metal for 2 coins they could just stop production.
If the year of the half is not important, take a look here:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...het&_sacat=0

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Your secondhand source is completely incorrect, the US Mint would never intentionally strike a coin using the wrong planchets, it could only occur accidentally. Besides that, 1964-dated half dollars were actually struck into the early part of 1966 due to date freeze legislation as part of the switchover to clad coinage.

The archives of Heritage Auctions has over 25 listings for 1964 Half Dollars struck on quarter planchet, mostly silver but a few cupronickel clads as well. There were also a few struck on cent, nickel, and dime planchets.
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Aghh you see why dig for more information ;) Most of the time it is the people who are answering a post that lack any information backing up what they say.
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Tweak800: If you are referring to us saying the mint would never intentionally mint half dollars on a quarter planchet - Why would they? It would be ridiculous to have a quota of X coins and be off by 2 so you are forced to use a quarter instead. (I don't even think there is a quota, is there?)
1) Why not cut the quarter sheet with the half dollar cutter
2) The half dollars would then get mixed in with quarters in rolling machines
3) The mint doesn't want to intentionally create errors, thus errors
The only error or anything other than mint spec is done intentionally is a mint employee who forges errors, making them not errors but rather creations

OutcastOmega: If you want to link us to your source that says they ran out of half planchets and had to use quarter planchets please do.

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Thanks guys. That was the story I was told and wanted to get some information about it. Didn't realize they were more common than was previously told. Granted it is still a rare find, I was led to believe that it was extremely rare and of high value.
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No blue solo your way off. I'm referring to people saying things like MD. and not saying why. Or even DD and not saying why they think that. Or giving you a grade or changing a grade they gave you and not saying why. Without a whole story we can't always be expected to fill in the blanks like as with the OP< original poster. So we are left with more questions afterwards because someone left out important information and it leads to a lot of false information being spread as true information. It happens a lot on this forum especially
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Ok, yea I wasn't sure what you were getting at but now I understand :D
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Blue solo; how would you tell the difference between a "creation" and an error if you had one of each in your hand?
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I have difficulty distinguishing, but others have pointed out errors requiring the collar to be removed, positioned the right way, etc. If it's the typical error such as a clip it probably happened by accident. If it's something like this cent struck on a nail, you can suspect someone removed the collar with the intentions of manufacturing an error for profit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCGS-1c-Lin...291482789807

Here's an old example of another type of creation (not confirmed according to wiki):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1913_..._Head_nickel
"But Brown had been a Mint employee in 1913, and many numismatic historians have concluded that he may have struck them himself (or had them struck) and taken them from the Mint.[1] If true, this was not a unique occurrence;"
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